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Re: Fw: Red Hat Linux end-of-life update and transition planning
From: Ron DuFresne <dufresne () winternet com>
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 15:59:22 -0600 (CST)


<rofl>  cool thing about sun lately is they just plain tell ya, don't use
ours, we aren't gonna fix and maintain it now, go build yer own from
source.  They did that with ftpd <wu_ftpd mind you> and I believe
recommend the same now for sendmail.

And a slackware admin could follow that mindset easy.

Thanks,

Ron DuFresne

On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Jeremiah Cornelius wrote:

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Just look at the "latest" sendmail available for Solaris 8.

Far worse than the complaints about Debian stable.

So, don't complain about Fedora.  You don't like it - fix it Mr. Know-it-all.
It's GPL and /community/ based.  You want to use it? You want it to suit your
needs?  /Participate/ in the community!  You don't like the updater?  You
might contribute RPMS for apt-get or the Mandrake updater - ported to the
Fedora back-end. Maybe a secure transport for Kickstart - with the rpmfind
db?

The sky is the limit - - if you don't wait for other people to take you there,
and /complian/ that they aren't!

Jeremiah Cornelius

On Tuesday 04 November 2003 08:22, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 10:25:55 EST, Eric Bowser said:


Fedora seems like it will be unstable/difficult to patch/*insert
whatever here* in an intentional effort to extract money from users for
the enterprise version.  I don't debate the business sense behind their
decisions, but they have made a viable OS available for years, gotten
everybody addicted, and then replaced it with your choice of headaches,
or a pay-to-play product.  Don't drug dealers do that?


On the other hand, commercial OS's tend to be *really* static, without
much innovation - look at IBM's z/OS, there's still remnants in there
from OS/360 in 1964.  People complain that Solaris hasn't picked up
<whatever> that other vendors have been doing for years.

That's the price of stability.

You should be glad that RedHat is willing to finance a distro where
the Next Big Thing can develop, even if it isn't their official product.
It's quite possibly the best thing that could have happened to
*both* RedHat and Fedora lines - now there's no longer the big
stability/innovation conflict that having one product line trying
to do both had.
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