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RE: [spam] Re: This sums up Yahoo!s security policy to a -T-
From: "Exibar" <exibar () thelair com>
Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 01:51:50 -0500

-----Original Message-----
From: J.A. Terranson [mailto:measl () mfn org]
Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 10:56 AM
To: Exibar
Cc: morning_wood; full-disclosure () lists netsys com
Subject: [spam] Re: [Full-disclosure] This sums up Yahoo!s security
policy to a -T-

On Thu, 23 Dec 2004, Exibar wrote:

I applaud Yahoo for adhearing to their policies.  All the
familly has to do
is send legal documents of their son's death, and legal
documents stating
who they are.  At that point I'm sure the account information will be
released as per Yahoo's policy.

Yahoo's policy says that death terminates the account: they better have a
TRO served up with that notice ;-)

If it does state that, then his parents have zero legal recourse.

  Instead of trying to get the media involved, they should be
getting their
laywer involved as the clock's ticking on the 90 no-activity
delete.  Their
lawyer will know the correct documents to send over to yahoo as proof of
their son's death and that his parents have control over their
dead son's

I've been wondering why they went the PR route, and the answer which
comes to mind is that his parents may *not* be the estate holders ;-)
Perhaps there is a will which they don't like?  Or a wife?  Maybe a

  Perhaps what yahoo *could* do, or *should* do, is remove the 90 day
time-out on their son's e-mail account until they can have a
chance of going
through the courts.  Perhaps extend it up to 365 days...

Why?  They have a well defined set of account terms, which the decedent
specifically acknowledged and agreed to.  Why should some outsider be able
to come in and change the rules after the fact?  Why does everyone assume
that the decedent would approve of his family getting control of his

I only said that to state that *if* Yahoo wanted some good PR, they would
lift the 90 expirey.  They don't have to, especially if death terminates the
account as stated above.


J.A. Terranson
sysadmin () mfn org

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upside down- doctors destroy health, psychiatrists destroy minds, lawyers
destroy justice, the major media destroy information, governments destroy
freedom and religions destroy spirituality - yet it is claimed to be
healthy, just, informed, free and spiritual. We live in a social system
whose community, wealth, love and life is derived from alienation,
poverty, self-hate and medical murder - yet we tell ourselves that it is
biologically and ecologically sustainable.

The Bush plan to screen whole US population for mental illness clearly
indicates that mental illness starts at the top.

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