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RE: And you're proud of this Mike Evanchick?
From: "Todd Towles" <toddtowles () brookshires com>
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 08:38:51 -0600

Umm..and you were the one giving cheers to Norton. Of course AV can be
fooled..and of course a patch from microsoft is the only true way to fix
the problem. 
 
She was attacking you for giving Cheers to Norton. I didn't release the
POC, you did. I am happy Norton is detecting it. If you want to change
your words right in the middle of the sentence, I really don't care.
 
By attacking me on a personal level, you have proven to me..to be
unprofessional at best.


________________________________

        From: Michael Evanchik [mailto:Mike () MichaelEvanchik com] 
        Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:03 PM
        To: Todd Towles; Elle Chicka; full-disclosure () lists netsys com
        Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] And you're proud of this Mike
Evanchick?
        
        
        Todd,
         
        Listen, you are so wrong i cant belive you even have the guts to
post this.  How stupid can you be?  Norton or any AVP can easily be
fooled.  The active x object "ca"+n b"+ +e crea" +ted" like this. code
changed around , or even different local code can be used and tada AVP
is fooled.  Only a true patch from microsoft or disable the help control
in the registry is going to stop this.  Her concern is wise.  
         
        Mike
        www.michaelevanchik.com
         

                ----- Original Message ----- 
                From: Todd Towles <mailto:toddtowles () brookshires com>  
                To: Elle Chicka <mailto:c1b3r_chick () yahoo com>  ;
full-disclosure () lists netsys com 
                Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 9:36 AM
                Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] And you're proud of this
Mike Evanchick?

                Well, if you have Norton, it couldn't wreak havoc...now
could it? Most of the AV compaines are now detecting the exploit. This
detection response is much faster than most of the other exploits which
are wreaking havoc on your network, so it would sound.
                 
                Nice work to Norton.


________________________________

                        From: full-disclosure-bounces () lists netsys com
[mailto:full-disclosure-bounces () lists netsys com] On Behalf Of Elle
Chicka
                        Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 11:16 PM
                        To: full-disclosure () lists netsys com
                        Subject: [Full-disclosure] And you're proud of
this Mike Evanchick?
                        
                        
                        You so proudly posted this:
                        ------------------------
        
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/trojan.phel.a.ht
ml
<https://mail.microsoft.com/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://securityres
ponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/trojan.phel.a.html> 
                        
                        mike
                        
                        www.michaelevanchik.com
                         
                        ------------------------
                        Obviously you are just tickled to see that the
kiddies were able to so quickly turn your point/click sploit code into a
virus to wreak havoc on my network.
                        
                        Thanks a lot for helping to make all of us a
little less secure over the holiday's.
                         

        
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