Home page logo
/

fulldisclosure logo Full Disclosure mailing list archives

Re: Beta Advisories
From: Bart.Lansing () kohls com
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 16:34:18 -0500


Yes, and the OIS guidelines are thinly veiled "Oh please don't tell the 
world that we have had this bug for 6 months...we'll look bad" methods for 
being able to quash the full disclosure model and take the  pressure of 
"respond to me, get it fixed, or thr world is going to know about it" off 
the vendors.  Do you really think that the vendors will expend resources 
to fix things just because it is "the right thing to do"?   Please tell me 
you're not that naive...please. 

I'm not advocating playing bombs away, sneak attacking a vendor by issuing 
a 0-day disclosure publicly.  I sure as hell am saying that a vendor 
knowing the vuln will in fact be disclosed after a reasonable period of 
time, fixed or not, has certainly motivated more than a few to get the fix 
done prior to taking a public black eye. 

Bart Lansing
Manager, Desktop Services
Kohl's IT


full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com wrote on 07/06/2004 10:47:47 AM:

I don't think it's garbage. I bring up a valid point here.  If you 
must, filter me out.. don't be lazy. 

This brings up the question of guidelines the OIS wish people to follow.


Cheerio


Henrik Persson <nix () syndicalist net> wrote:
On Tue, 2004-07-06 at 12:56, System Outage wrote:
If you do a query on the BUGTRAQ archive you'll see no mention of
Gmail and i'm sure that's not because people haven't been atttempting
to post about Gmail , but because the moderators think Gmail is beta.
I bet once Gmail is launched as a public service, the BUGTRAQ
moderators will allow Gmail advisories.

Pherhaps. But this _is_ full-disclosure, not bugtraq. This is FULL
disclosure.

I'm lazy, too lazy to just filter you out. Stop posting garbage,
garbage! ;/

-- 
Henrik Persson 

_______________________________________________
Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Do you Yahoo!?
Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard.

CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: 
This is a transmission from Kohl's Department Stores, Inc.
and may contain information which is confidential and proprietary.
If you are not the addressee, any disclosure, copying or distribution or use of the contents of this message is 
expressly prohibited.
If you have received this transmission in error, please destroy it and notify us immediately at 262-703-7000.

CAUTION:
Internet and e-mail communications are Kohl's property and Kohl's reserves the right to retrieve and read any message 
created, sent and received.  Kohl's reserves the right to monitor messages by authorized Kohl's Associates at any time
without any further consent.

  By Date           By Thread  

Current thread:
[ Nmap | Sec Tools | Mailing Lists | Site News | About/Contact | Advertising | Privacy ]
AlienVault