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Re: Yahoo!
From: System Outage <system.outage () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 10:03:14 +0100

Heh.. Don't worry. I won't tell this list about the numerous cookie
exploits which lead to thousands, probably millions of Yahoo!
account's being compromised last year.

If only the media had picked up on it at the time. It would have been
a massive story for people like CNet News to run. Some things are ment
to be kept underground, I guess.

It's amazing the stuff that never makes it onto public security
mailing lists, and it seem's like only the small issues are post here
by security groups (for Yahoo! at least).

And about telling Yahoo! about issues. I've given up on that now. They
are ignorant people at the address security () yahoo-inc com  They only
care for themselfs and have little public relation skills. They burnt
there bridges with me and now they'll suffer. They know I get hold of
alot of information for Yahoo! and send it to them directly at
security () yahoo-inc com or via other employee's who send it to the
security team.

I've noticed also from past advisories on here by the big security
groups that Yahoo! Security seem to have a problem with public
relations and the lack of feedback they give people.

Anyway, it's not my problem anymore. They can find there own security
loopholes from now on. I'm finished with helping them out, as I have
done indirectly over the past 6 years and to security () yahoo-inc com
directly for the last 1/2 years.

The script kiddies who hang on Yahoo! Chat will probably burn the
place down (and that's just the ones who claim to have carried the out
Akamia attack on Yahoo!), if they haven't managed to do so already.


Cheerio


On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 19:08:04 -0700 (PDT), VX Dude <vxdude2003 () yahoo com> wrote:
--- System Outage <system_outage () yahoo com> wrote:
Yeah, i've contacted the Yahoo! Security Team over
the past 1/2 years with various issues that they
-did- follow up and patch, but did not once think to
tell me about progress. It was only after I spoke to
a representative of Yahoo! Security and said I was
going to post all the underground security issues
with Yahoo! to FD, that I received an e-mail to say
sorry that we didn't contact you. We've been reading
-all- mails are we've been taking further action(s),
after all this time.

<snip>

I guess the same may apply for Google Security Team.
After all, Yahoo! and Google were very good
partners, up until recently. Google and Yahoo! seem
to have very quickly become rivals, with regards of
Search and  E-mail.

The things I could tell FD about Yahoo! would rock
the Yahoo! Security Team to it's foundations (and
they know it). Luckily for them, I have morals.

Yahoo! are aware of who I am, even though they know
me on another alias.


Cheerio

<snip>

I would just like to point out that some of us who use
yahoo enjoy their security holes, if they didnt have
such security holes we move on to using something like
gmail!

So please, stop telling yahoo, if they really cared,
they'd do it on their own, and don't blab to FD
either.  Why ruin everyone's fun for 2 inches of fame?

PS: FD keep sending those viruses.  I don't know what
the fuck it has to do for your cause, but it helps out
my cause ;p

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