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RE: Looking for a tool
From: "Tiago Halm" <thalm () netcabo pt>
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 04:48:29 -0000

Paul,
 
Run FileMon and RegMon (both from SysInternals) while you do those delete
actions you mention, then examine the log file and you may find something.
FileMon makes use of "NTFS Change Journal" which I think may be behind those
process and file/directory re-creations. "NTFS Change Journal" tracks every
action in a NTFS file system. Just google for it for more info.
 
Hope it helps,
Tiago Halm

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Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] Looking for a tool



-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Jacobsen [mailto:nick () ethicsdesign com] 
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 5:31 PM
To: Schmehl, Paul L; full-disclosure () lists netsys com
Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] Looking for a tool


Well, I usually use *sysinternals* Process Exporer, and have yet to see it
fail to list a process...  how do you know the process exists, if you can't
list it?
 
Real simple.  I have randomly named processes (like gk5odre.exe) popping up,
and when I kill them, another one takes their place.  *Something* has to be
the parent than controls this.  I can delete an entire registry key and
watch it be recreated in less than a second.  I can delete a directory with
three dlls in it and watch it be recreated right before my eyes.  I can kill
the randomly named process and watch it reappear using the same name or a
completely different name.  I can delete the executable after killing the
process, and it will be recreated in no time.  So *something* has to be
controlling it, yet when I look at the process tree, the randomly named
process appears to be the parent.
Paul Schmehl (pauls () utdallas edu)
Adjunct Information Security Officer
The University of Texas at Dallas
AVIEN Founding Member
http://www.utdallas.edu/~pauls/ 


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