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RE: IE is just as safe as FireFox
From: "Todd Towles" <toddtowles () brookshires com>
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 09:09:50 -0600

He can buy a product..or do a super fast rollout of SP2..but why should
he? Microsoft should write better products...period. Everytime a Firefox
exploit comes out..there is already a fix...is that magic? No..it is
good coding... 

-----Original Message-----
From: full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com 
[mailto:full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com] On Behalf Of 
Rafel Ivgi, The-Insider
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 8:09 AM
To: full-disclosure () lists netsys com; Colin.Scott () csplc com
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox

If you do have 14000 machines why don't you buy "Finjan's 
Vital Security For Web"?
It will filter all malicious I.E exploits for all its 
surfers(its a proxy, quite fast...)

Or just use SUS(system update server (microsoft)) just like 
any other administrator... to install sp2 or to just replace 
the c:\windows\system32\shdocvw.dll with the patched one or 
with sp2 one...

Rafel Ivgi, The-Insider
Security Consultant
Malicious Code Research Center (MCRC)
Finjan Software LTD
E-mail: rivgi () Finjan com
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Prevention is the best cure!
----- Original Message -----
From: <Colin.Scott () csplc com>
To: <full-disclosure () lists netsys com>
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] IE is just as safe as FireFox


Oh yeah, I've got 14,000 Windows 2000 machines to update to 
windows XP SP2,
hang on wheres that CD?

So thanks for your infinate wisdom there Rafel.

Colin.








                                                              
               
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12/11/2004 06:44



That is incorrect, there is a fix --> SP2.
Users  should use the latest updated system, meaning if there 
is an SP2,
they
should install it.


Rafel Ivgi, The-Insider
Security  Consultant
Malicious Code Research Center (MCRC)
Finjan Software  LTD
E-mail: rivgi () Finjan com
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Prevention  is the best cure!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Mkrtchian"  <dotsecure () gmail com>
To: "Todd Towles" <toddtowles () brookshires com>
Cc: "Mailing List -  Full-Disclosure" 
<full-disclosure () lists netsys com>;
<ring-of-fire () yahoogroups com>
Sent: Friday,  November 12, 2004 3:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] IE is just as safe  as FireFox


They should've at least released that statement after  they 
fixed the
IE FRAME vulnerability. 0 day exploit is in the wild and  no fix for
it, yet they claim its secure enough.

If the  programmers are as smart as the company press 
releasers, I can
see   why I.E. still sux.


Martin


On  Thu, 11 Nov 2004 15:59:20 -0600, Todd Towles
<toddtowles () brookshires com> wrote:
Microsoft's  security and mangement product manager (Ben English)
says...

At a security roundtable discussion in Sydney on  
Thursday, Ben English,
Microsoft's security and management product  manager, told 
attendees
that
IE undergoes "rigorous code reviews"  and is no less 
secure than any
other  browser.

"Because IE is ubiquitous, you hear a lot more  about it, 
but I don't
think that Internet Explorer is any less  secure than any 
other browser
out there," English  said.


http://news.com.com/Microsoft+says+Firefox+not+a+threat+to+IE/
2100-1032_
 3-5448719.html?part=dht&tag=ntop&tag=nl.e433

Can  anyone say IFRAME? Lol

-Todd

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