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Re: [in] Re: IE is just as safe as FireFox
From: Gregory Gilliss <ggilliss () netpublishing com>
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 09:38:57 -0800

One comment about XP2 - the company where I work (which produces 
security networking appliances) has a corporate policy - we do not
support XP2. Sales hates this (because all the numbnuts out there
are pulling SP2 down with autoupdate and they have no clue what
they have brought upon themselves) but since M$ was so idiotic as
to disable the network functionality that allows reverse proxies 
to function properly (and I'm not talking about Juniper's back
door where they pipe things straight through) it basically makes
my company's (and every other company's) product break.

The really dumb part is that M$ has a patch for their misdeeds and
a knowledge base article and everything - but it's not incoroporated
into autoupdate. Wonder why they would not include that fix for SP2
in autoupdate? Maybe they *want* to break other company's products?
Nah ... <G>


On or about 2004.11.14 06:59:40 +0000, Curt Purdy (purdy () tecman com) said:

Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:46:51 GMT, Colin.Scott () csplc com said:
Oh yeah, I've got 14,000 Windows 2000 machines to update to 
windows XP 
SP2, hang on wheres that CD?

What's worse is having to run a university network where you 
have 30K boxes that you do *not* have the political mandate 
to upgrade (fortunately, we *can* get away with "Upgrade or 
you can't use our network to talk to anybody else", because 
although we don't own the machines, we own the copper. :)

Upgrade W2K to XP?  I call that a downgrade! I won't allow XP (sp2 or not)
on my network. All new boxes must be reformatted and W2K or SuSE Linux or
BSD installed (unless of course it is a Mac with OpenBSD kernel that is
always welcome).

As for a university network, I can only sympathize.  I listened to an
interview with a U of H admin last week, and thought, if I was a
script-kiddie the first thing I would do when I got home was scan their

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