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Re: controversial shadowcrew site hacked by secret service?
From: "josh abbott" <josh () load com>
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:21:01 -0800

this stuff is totally real to the max. my cousin's former roomate's
neighbor's uncle jessie once worked for the secret service and he told me
it's completely standard protocol to have the mission impossible theme in
the background. also the <strike> tag is used exclusively by the secret

From: "Curt Purdy" <purdy () tecman com>
To: "'Insecure'" <insecure () ameritech net>, "'Danny'" <nocmonkey () gmail com>
Cc: <full-disclosure () lists netsys com>
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] controversial shadowcrew site hacked by
secret service?
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 04:23:52 -0600

Danny wrote:
The Secret Service, or any other government enforcement agency would
not condone, promote, or participate in website defacement
I know some of you have little faith in these agencies, but,
one thing
is for sure, they would never stoop this low.

Insecure replied:
Even when the Secret Service admits that they took over the
site and put up their own page, you don't believe it?

Must be nice to have such blind faith in the integrity of
your government "enforcement" agencies.


I don't know whether it's you folks who doomed us to another 4 years of
trying to justify your own blind faith or what, but it's time you all woke
up to reality.  Good Morning America!  Our government is no more (as)
ethical as any other country.  Whether it is our agents murdering a South
American dictator we don't happen to like, or our agents defacing a
cracker's site, it happens.  Obviously you slept through the weeks of
cyberwar our (paid) hackers fought with China's (paid) hackers after they
downed our jet a while back.  It was China who finally called a truce in
their official press.

Sorry to give you people the bad news, but Bambi died a while ago.  It's
wild west in 1800 and there is no law.  If you want to survive, you better
have a hired gun and we go for $300/hour these days.  At least those of us
who have met the black hat on main street at 50 paces at high noon and
walked away to tell about it.

Information Security Engineer
DP Solutions


If you spend more on coffee than on IT security, you will be hacked.
What's more, you deserve to be hacked.
-- former White House cybersecurity zar Richard Clarke

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