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RE: controversial shadowcrew site hacked by secret service?
From: "Todd Towles" <toddtowles () brookshires com>
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 15:11:40 -0600

The DOJ and Secret Service arrested the people running the site.
Therefore the domain name has been passed to another person (a friend
maybe) to control or the government took it over as part of the case.
Either way it wasn't "hacked" and it really doesn't matter... If it
government has anyting to do with it, it is simply a redirect. So DOJ
employees can't have a sense of humor?

-----Original Message-----
From: full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com 
[mailto:full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com] On Behalf Of 
josh abbott
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 12:21 PM
To: full-disclosure () lists netsys com
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] controversial shadowcrew site 
hacked by secret service?

this stuff is totally real to the max. my cousin's former 
roomate's neighbor's uncle jessie once worked for the secret 
service and he told me it's completely standard protocol to 
have the mission impossible theme in the background. also the 
<strike> tag is used exclusively by the secret service.

From: "Curt Purdy" <purdy () tecman com>
To: "'Insecure'" <insecure () ameritech net>, "'Danny'" 
<nocmonkey () gmail com>
Cc: <full-disclosure () lists netsys com>
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] controversial shadowcrew 
site hacked by
secret service?
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 04:23:52 -0600

Danny wrote:
The Secret Service, or any other government enforcement agency 
would not condone, promote, or participate in website defacement
I know some of you have little faith in these agencies, but,
one thing
is for sure, they would never stoop this low.

Insecure replied:
Even when the Secret Service admits that they took over 
the site and 
put up their own page, you don't believe it?

Must be nice to have such blind faith in the integrity of your 
government "enforcement" agencies.


I don't know whether it's you folks who doomed us to 
another 4 years 
trying to justify your own blind faith or what, but it's 
time you all 
woke up to reality.  Good Morning America!  Our government 
is no more 
(as) ethical as any other country.  Whether it is our 
agents murdering 
a South American dictator we don't happen to like, or our agents 
defacing a cracker's site, it happens.  Obviously you slept through 
the weeks of cyberwar our (paid) hackers fought with China's (paid) 
hackers after they downed our jet a while back.  It was China who 
finally called a truce in their official press.

Sorry to give you people the bad news, but Bambi died a while ago.  
wild west in 1800 and there is no law.  If you want to survive, you 
better have a hired gun and we go for $300/hour these days. 
 At least 
those of us who have met the black hat on main street at 50 
paces at 
high noon and walked away to tell about it.

Curt Purdy CISSP, GSEC, MCSE+I, CNE, CCDA Information Security 
Engineer DP Solutions


If you spend more on coffee than on IT security, you will be hacked.
What's more, you deserve to be hacked.
-- former White House cybersecurity zar Richard Clarke

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