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Re: Hacking into private files, my credit card purchases, personal correspondence or anything that is mine is trespassing and criminal.
From: Harlan Carvey <keydet89 () yahoo com>
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 09:36:26 -0700 (PDT)

matter how many laws are passed or how many policies
are written, they are pretty much useless as they
are not capable of changing people.

Laws don't change people's behaviour...the enforcement
of the laws does.

In the days of NIPC, the Attorney General mandated a
threshold of $5k losses when reporting cybercrimes in
order for the FBI to become involved.  Did that change
behaviour?  Yes, but not the behaviour we would
want...the crimes still occurred (or in some cases,
were thought to have occurred), yet the case load was
so overwhelming that unless you could demonstrate a
financial loss of $50K, they didn't even blink.

Having laws...words written on paper...is ineffective
in and of itself.  Enforcing those laws, or at least
being able to do so, is what has an effect.  Even if
you have enough trained, qualified LE personnel to
enforce the laws, you still have issues of...is the
"victim" capable of determining/demonstrating when a
crime has occurred?

Harlan Carvey, CISSP
"Windows Forensics and Incident Recovery"

"Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for
you are crunchy, and good with ketchup."

"The simplicity of this game amuses me. 
Bring me your finest meats and cheeses."

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