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AW: Google Search and Gmail Correlation
From: "Tim Hecktor" <ebay () thehangout de>
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:51:02 +0100


Most of the URL's google finds are pointing to ip Adresses. The people seem
to be to 
Lazy to set up a subdomain for their cam's because it will be a part of a
frameset on their website
And the url would not bee seen anyway. I just greped one example, the camera
reached under
axis_64ddf3.axiscam.net:7000/view/index.shtml?videos=one is acually bound
into their website in the
frameset found on
http://www.calgaryflyingclub.com/frame_webcam_parkinglot.asp so google found
it there. Those Axis cams are
easy to find using allinurl on google because they have their webserver
included and so their URL's are all the same.

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A little OT but I was pondering the other day about something.

Remember the Axis network camera "inurl" search that exposed internet facing
LAN cameras? Well I noticed that lots of those cameras are configured on
high ports. 7000 for example. Now, I wondered how Google gets those cameras
into its cache. Ok so there may be a web facing link _somewhere_ that
references the URL... but when you search there are hundreds of these
cameras in Google's cache. Now are Google going to tell us that they got
there merely from web links? Is Google doing port scans when it finds an IP?
Probably not.... So how about the Googlebar secretly updating Google's cache
when we use these things?

Just a ponder, please dont flame me if its been covered before, I havent got
my flame-proof trousers on today!  :)



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Re: [Full-Disclosure] Google Search
and Gmail Correlation                            24/02/2005 12:12

Hello Cody,

I think that what you are observing is this: the cookie you get when
visiting your gmail account is valid for the whole google.com domain, and
therefore will be transferred again when you do web searches as well.

As you write, this is not a bug per se, the cookie mechanism is working as

It is also obvious that such an approach may raise privacy concerns.

Now, *if* google wanted to mitigate this problem, it would be easy. They
should migrate the gmail service web frontend to a subdomain (say:
gmail.google.com) or even a whole new domain (gmail.com exists already but
www.gmail.com merely redirects) and make the cookie only valid in that

The questions is, do they want to do this?

And yes, for now, if you are privacy conscious, delete the cookie before
doing a Google search (or using any other Google service).


Szilveszter Adam
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