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Re: NAT router inbound network traffic subversion
From: Kristian Hermansen <khermansen () ht-technology com>
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:37:02 -0500

I think the answers that I received in response to my query are somewhat
obvious -- yes -- but neither answered my question!  Morning Wood's
analysis was brilliant as ever, like always ;-P

"atacker now can do a he wishes to the rest of your network ( GAME
OVER )"

Ummm...okay.  The problem with you was this statement:

"NAT client browses web..."

HOW IS THIS NOT USER INTERACTION?!?!?  I asked if there is a computer on
the internal network that doesn't do anything -- that means SENDING NO
PACKETS to the router -- if an attacker can get EVEN ONE PACKET inside:
then they will prove everyone wrong, right?  If one packet can get
through, it can be considered a rogue packet that should not have
entered the internal network destined for a particular host -- or better
yet -- an internal broadcast address going to all hosts.

Some say getting these rogue packets into the network is "impossible".
That is the reason for my question.  I like to think that most problems
are "intractable", but not "impossible".  Can anyone prove me wrong?
Can someone push a rogue packet behind a router with no client
interaction???  This is my chautauqua...
-- 
Kristian Hermansen <khermansen () ht-technology com>

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