Heh. I don't think it's off topic at all, after all
KF, your absolutely right. The lack of regulation
and the lack of
attention people give to it is atrocious. You would
think in a post
9/11 America that they would at least have some sort
board. Same goes for the utility companies.
Speaking of LENS. If anyone is interested in a copy
of the LERG (local
exchange routing guide) send me an e-mail. Basically
a bunch of excel
spreadsheets mapping out switches across the US.
Find out who manages
it, what equipment they are running. What NPA/NXX's
they control, etc.
It's a nice little thing to have around sometimes.
Shoot me a private
e-mail if you'd like a copy. Forewarning, the file
is roughly 45MB so
plan to have an FTP ready for me to upload it to.
On 5/5/05, KF (lists) <kf_lists () digitalmunition com>
Deigo Dude wrote:
Continuing on the thread of telco's (even though
its off topic)
I think it actually falls in a safe zone under the
list charter. In
general though I feel that the security of our
infrastructure should certainly be talked about.
After the deregulation
of the industry I feel that some of these
companies need to be held
accountable for their equipment. They are
currently in the position that
they can simply pull wool over any anyones eyes
that inquires about
their security. 'These aren't the droids you're
If you get too close to finding something out they
try to burry you in
legal jargon and mumbo jumbo instead of addressing
the problems at hand.
It is really quite pathetic.
Every try to talk to your local police about the
potential that someone
may have taken control of your towns DMS100... try
it sometime. Have an
even funner time if you live out in the middle of
Ever try to talk to the FTC about a telco issue?
FBI? DHS? Its not a fun
task... especially when folks either A have no
clue what you are
speaking of or B simply don't care.
These telcos act like the internet and computers
have nothing to do with
the security of their network... I think its bull
I used to have access to
https://lens.bellsouth.com (Local exchange
navigation system) so you all im sure would also
have fun if you can
gain access to that. You can look up full
non-published numbers, make reservations of new
numbers, make service
orders, change phone service, pretty much
anything a bellsouth
employee would need to do at any point.
I am sure you and several others have had access
to that sort of thing
over time. That is exactly part of the problem. NO
standards and no one
to really regulate them.
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