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RE: PAYPAL security, hundred or thausend of buyers under cc fraud
From: "Todd Towles" <toddtowles () brookshires com>
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 08:52:05 -0500

Very true. Then the banks are allowed to contact you and tell you if
your card was exposed, but they don't have to tell you. I called my bank
shortly after the CardSystems issue and they told me that they had a
list of the cards that were exposed and they were watching them.
Umm..sorry that isn't good enough for me. You know the cards that were
stolen and you are going to watch them? I know what I buy...would I not
be in a better position to judge that type of stuff.

Some banks, let their customers now and even reissued cards to
them...while other banks just sit in the list and didn't want to rock
the boat....at what cost? That I can get charged 24.99 for months and
never know about it.

Seems like this stuff needs to change... 

-----Original Message-----
From: full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk 
[mailto:full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk] On Behalf 
Of Mary Landesman
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 9:00 AM
To: ad () class101 org; full-disclosure () lists grok org uk
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] PAYPAL security,hundred or 
thausend of buyers under cc fraud

I've spent less than 5 minutes looking through that thread 
and already have found a number of posts stating their card 
was not affiliated with PayPal.
So I have to wonder how you jumped so quickly to that conclusion.

Remember CardSystems - 200,000 credit card accounts were 
compromised and 40 million accounts exposed just months ago. 
I think I would put my bet on something more obvious, like that.

Research is about more than collecting links that backup your 
viewpoint.

-- Mary

----- Original Message -----
From: <ad () class101 org>
To: <full-disclosure () lists grok org uk>
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 9:23 AM
Subject: [Full-disclosure] PAYPAL security,hundred or 
thausend of buyers under cc fraud


I will explain my small story to show you that using paypal 
to buy on the
web is risked.
I have buy only 2 things this month, 1 game at 
steampowered.com and 1GB DDR2
at a respectable ebay store. That was the first time I were 
using paypal to
pay things on the net and so on it will be the last time..

Today I notice at my bank account a fraudulent debit of 
24.99$ coming from a
"DIGITAL AGE 888", and looking on the web, happy to see that there is
hundred maybe thausends of ppl in my case , fraudulent charge 
of 24.99$ from
a "digital age".

look there:

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14525502?
hilite=digital+age

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14521837?
hilite=digital+age

http://www.robertkbrown.com/2005/10/04/digital_age_fraud.html

after reading all this and comparing with my case, sure it 
comes from paypal
and the stored cc card.

So if you are under the fraud also like me, fill a complaint 
to your bank
and there http://www.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp

This was a first and last use of paypal for me, unbelievable ...



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