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RE: PAYPAL security, hundred or thausend of buyers under cc fraud
From: "Todd Towles" <toddtowles () brookshires com>
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 10:08:28 -0500

Hey Class, in the US..it is up to the that bank if they tell you or not...some just watch your account. Most banks get 
a list of the exposed account and they know. But if they issue new cards or even tell their customers is different per 
bank. My bank wouldn't even tell me if I was on the list... 

-----Original Message-----
From: full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk 
[mailto:full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk] On Behalf 
Of ad () class101 org
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 9:45 AM
To: 'Mary Landesman'; full-disclosure () lists grok org uk
Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] PAYPAL security,hundred or 
thausend of buyers under cc fraud
Importance: High

Could be something as big as cardsystems then right, had not 
read about this, but I think my bank had to aware me of a 
potential risk on my account , dunno, but anyway regarding 
all complaints, its something big as cardsystem like you 
suggest , nor as big as amazon or paypal, all complaints are 
from this month, DIGITAL AGE will be found, I hope , bastards :>

-----Message d'origine-----
De : Mary Landesman [mailto:mlande () bellsouth net] Envoyé : 
mardi 11 octobre 2005 16:00 À : ad () class101 org; 
full-disclosure () lists grok org uk Objet : Re: 
[Full-disclosure] PAYPAL security,hundred or thausend of 
buyers under cc fraud

I've spent less than 5 minutes looking through that thread 
and already have found a number of posts stating their card 
was not affiliated with PayPal.
So I have to wonder how you jumped so quickly to that conclusion.

Remember CardSystems - 200,000 credit card accounts were 
compromised and 40 million accounts exposed just months ago. 
I think I would put my bet on something more obvious, like that.

Research is about more than collecting links that backup your 
viewpoint.

-- Mary

----- Original Message -----
From: <ad () class101 org>
To: <full-disclosure () lists grok org uk>
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 9:23 AM
Subject: [Full-disclosure] PAYPAL security,hundred or 
thausend of buyers under cc fraud


I will explain my small story to show you that using paypal 
to buy on the
web is risked.
I have buy only 2 things this month, 1 game at 
steampowered.com and 1GB DDR2
at a respectable ebay store. That was the first time I were 
using paypal to
pay things on the net and so on it will be the last time..

Today I notice at my bank account a fraudulent debit of 
24.99$ coming from a
"DIGITAL AGE 888", and looking on the web, happy to see that there is
hundred maybe thausends of ppl in my case , fraudulent charge 
of 24.99$ from
a "digital age".

look there:

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14525502?
hilite=digital+age

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14521837?
hilite=digital+age

http://www.robertkbrown.com/2005/10/04/digital_age_fraud.html

after reading all this and comparing with my case, sure it 
comes from paypal
and the stored cc card.

So if you are under the fraud also like me, fill a complaint 
to your bank
and there http://www.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp

This was a first and last use of paypal for me, unbelievable ...



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