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Re: obtai an IP of an MSN Messenger contact
From: n3td3v <n3td3v () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 21:44:05 +0100

Funny you should mention awstats vulnerabilities, jeremy zawodny's domain (
zawodny.com) was hacked using an awstats vulnerability (by Infektion Group).
To this day, this yahoo employee offers great tips for international hackers
to target individual employees. Not only from the intelligence his blog
offers from his posts, but by the countless corporate users who post in his
comments section, and of course, his backend logs for his site are a wealth
of information on corporate users, but we won't go into the detaills of how
the logs of his site might be compromised and how they would be used to
attack the yahoo dot com domain right now. And Yahoo's word on Yahoo
employees blogging and the relation to major cyber attacks against Yahoo dot
com infrastructure, along with its domain name servers, a lot of the time
provided by "aka" is of course complete silence. How cute.

On 4/5/06, Ian stuart Turnbull <ian.t7 () hotmail co uk> wrote:

Many thanks for that. In fact I should've known this myself [rap over
knuckles with ruler] as its the Apache logs that started me on this
thing. After checking my logs I noticed some strange entries and I believe
on this post I posted some of these strange HTTP requests. I was tols that
they were known exploits in AWSTATS which I fortunately don't have
installed. Funny because the IP's of these attackers were in the log as
Now I feel just a little foolish.

Still thanks for the good info - nice one

Ian t

From: n3td3v <n3td3v () gmail com>
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Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] obtai an IP of an MSN Messenger contact
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 21:01:13 +0100
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On messenger though, not even corporate users use a proxy, even though
offer their employees the "socks.yahoo.com" network. This is because
proxy over messenger really does affect the whole operation of refresh
times on your messenger list status of users going on and offline etc.
your method of just getting someone to view a file hosted on a webserver
wouldn't work if you were trying to hack Yahoo, because all employees,
the internet explorer, firefox browser, they all use the socks, socks1,
socks2,socks3 and so on, so you would be in a highly unlikely position to
actually getting their actual hostname. On messenger its different, the
social psychology of corporate users is that they believe they are in a
false sense of security, wrapped in cotton wool, because by adding you to
their messenger list, you've already got by that "trust" element, and as
soon as you do get on a messenger list of a corporate user then you have
more or less suceeded in completing the most sicnificant part of the
to steal corporate data from an individual within a major dot-com. If you
want a non-proxy IP from a corporate user, messenger is the application
very rarely use with their corporate proxy, trust me, I know about this

On 4/5/06, Octal <octetstream () gmail com> wrote:

If you have control over a webserver, send the friend a link to an
image on that webserver and tell them to click on it.  Once they've
the link check your server logs for that invalid image and you should
their IP address (unless they're using a proxy like mentioned before).
can also do this with an email if your "victim's" email client is
to automatically render images when an email is opened.  This
been referred to as a "web bug".

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