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Re: Nmap Online
From: "Jason Miller" <jammer128 () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 06:56:43 -0600

I agree with Dave on this one. Dude Van, I thought it was illegal in the
states..? Or am I mistaken? Also, think of this from the ISP's view, do they
really want a service port scanning their users? And look at it this way,
said target has a proxy server on it, attacker proxies into the proxy and
scans the target server with that service, since he is now on the targets IP
address, I think you understand what I'm getting at by now. nmap is made to
find exploits, that is what this service is going to wind up being abused
for (in most cases that i know).

On 12/1/06, Dave Moore <dave.j.moore () gmail com> wrote:

On 12/1/06, Mike Huber <michael.huber () gmail com> wrote:
> first of all, IANAL, but the TOS seem to cover the basics...  However, I
am
> unsure whether they would hold up under strict legal scrutiny.  As far
as I
> can tell, they may hold up under US criminal law, but not under civil
law,
> as tort law has its own wonderful little eccentricities.  The best
safeguard
> they seem to have is that they must log the source IP of all scan
> requests...  As far as I know, anyone who takes the time to read the
nmap
> man page should be able to craft a scan which won't be detected by the
> scanned host (can someone be a definitive source on this point?), and
anyone
> taking malicious action ought to be taking sufficient precautions to
avoid
> detection anyway.  None-the-less, my 8-ball sees litigation in their
future.

All nmap scans are detectable. All port scans are detectable. Just
depends on how hard you're looking.

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