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Re: PC Firewall Choices
From: Nic Werner <nicwerner () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:42:04 -0800

On 1/17/06, Greg <full-disclosure2 () pchandyman com au> wrote:

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Of Nic Werner
Sent: Wednesday, 18 January 2006 10:05 AM
To: Steven
Cc: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] PC Firewall Choices
Importance: High

ZoneAlarm - gets in the way, and hard to diagnose problems.
You end up turning it off because it never remembers your
settings and you can't trust it.

Rubbish. Sure it gets in the way. It is MEANT to get in the way. If you
close it down, it is likely because you don't know how to drive it. The prog
CAN be a little hard to newbies to understand if you want to go internet
banking etc but people on this list ought to know how to handle it.

Getting in your way as opposed to letting you get work done are two
different things. Kerio does a great job of popping up and explaining
what is happening while I've seen more people confused by ZA and its

No, we've turned ZA off as web sites or programs won't load
(Ciscoworks, nGenius, etc) and even though we've checked the logs of
ZA, nothing shows as being blocked. Turn it off and everything
magically works. I will never run the bloat that is ZA.

Talk about trust, I don't trust the logging capability of ZA at all
due to examples like the above. While I enjoy your rant to the choir
about not trusting programs, my point is that ZA doesn't show
everything while it is actively blocking something.

To each their own! As you can see Steven, you should just download
each one and spend about a week fussing around.

- Nic.
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