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Re: complaints about the governemnt spying!
From: Bart.Lansing () kohls com
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 10:01:26 -0600

NUMBER:
1056
AUTHOR:
Benjamin Franklin (1706?90)
QUOTATION:
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary 
Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
ATTRIBUTION:
BENJAMIN FRANKLIN, Pennsylvania Assembly: Reply to the Governor, November 
11, 1755.?The Papers of Benjamin Franklin, ed. Leonard W. Labaree, vol. 6, 
p. 242 (1963).

  This quotation, slightly altered, is inscribed on a plaque in the 
stairwell of the pedestal of the Statue of Liberty: ?They that can give up 
essential liberty to obtain a little safety deserve neither liberty nor 
safety.?
SUBJECTS:
Liberty



full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk wrote on 12/29/2005 09:22:12 PM:

On 12/29/05, Michael Holstein <michael.holstein () csuohio edu> wrote:
The security directives are secret because you don't
show your hand to the enemy (except if you work for the New York 
Times.)

Uh huh .. so the newspaper informing the public about an illegal
government program (after holding the article for a year at the
government's request) is "helping the enemy"


Especially when "the enemy" is anyone who publicly or *privately*
disagrees with the president.  Worse now US citizens are enemies with
no civil rights and are imprisoned indefinately like rats...exactly
what are we defending by spying on our own citizens with no cause is
beyond me.

It seems so many have forgotten who the true enemy is.

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Jefferson, 1759).


That's actually a Benjamin Franklin quote, which is worded about 1000
different ways depending on the source.

-sb

/mike.
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