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Re: Re: Re: PC Firewall Choices
From: greybrimstone () aim com
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:43:55 -0500

Nancy,
Check out bullgard for your home/personal firewall/av/etc. Its rather decent for your average mom/pop/home user.

-Adriel

-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Kramer <nekramer () mindtheater net>
To: hummer () domeranger com; full-disclosure () lists grok org uk
Sent: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 02:42:00 -0500
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Re: Re: PC Firewall Choices

I guess I will stick with Kasperky which will probably phone home to Russia or something. Does anyone have any experience with the Firewall that comes with paid AVG? I just run free AVG currently on most computers so have not used it .

Regards,

Nancy Kramer

At 01:15 AM 1/20/2006, hummer () domeranger com wrote:

>I have been following this discussion waiting for someone to mention
another "feature" of Zone Alarm:
>Posted January 13, 3:00 a.m. PST Pacific Time,
>ROBERT X. CRINGELY http://www.infoworld.com/
>
>A Perfect Spy? It seems that ZoneAlarm Security Suite has been phoning
>home, even when told not to. Last fall, InfoWorld Senior Contributing
>Editor James Borck discovered ZA 6.0 was surreptitiously sending
>encrypted data back to four different servers, despite disabling all of >the suite's communications options. Zone Labs denied the flaw for nearly >two months, then eventually chalked it up to a "bug" in the software --
>even though instructions to contact the servers were set out in the
>program's XML code. A company spokesmodel says a fix for the flaw will
>be coming soon and worried users can get around the bug by modifying
>their Host file settings. However, there's no truth to the rumor that
>the NSA used ZoneAlarm to spy on U.S. citizens.
>
>
>:)
>
>Hummer
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Kramer" <nekramer () mindtheater net> >To: "Greg" <full-disclosure2 () pchandyman com au>;
<full-disclosure () lists grok org uk>
>Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 11:27 PM
>Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] Re: Re: PC Firewall Choices
>
>
>>I have the paid ZA but I heard the free one was better. Have no idea >>about that but would never buy the paid version again. At least now I >>know what was happening. Will try to look for that feature and set it to >>the maximum minutes. I only have it on my laptop which only goes on the >>internet sporadically but generally goes on the internet on public >>wireless networks which I think may not be all that secure. Lots of >>times I am meeting with someone there and we talk and then lookup >>something on the internet. I could see how time could pass quickly and I >>might not touch the computer for awhile. Thanks for the explanation.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Nancy Kramer
>>
>>
>> At 10:10 PM 1/19/2006, Greg wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk
>>> > [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk] On Behalf
>>> > Of Nancy Kramer
>>> > Sent: Friday, 20 January 2006 2:30 PM
>>> > To: Stan Bubrouski; full-disclosure () lists grok org uk
>>> > Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Re: Re: PC Firewall Choices
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I admit I know nothing about firewalls but with ZA I have had
>>> > to shut it
>>> > down sometimes to go onto the internet. I have no idea why.
>>> > I just can't
>>> > get on and when I shut it down I can.
>>> >
>>>
>>>That'd be a well known and never fixed bug I reported to Zonelabs some years >>>back now. It has a feature to automatically lock internet connection after >>>so many minutes of inactivity. The length of time can be changed by the >>>user. What it REALLY did was cut off access to internet and any LAN you were >>>on, isolating you entirely and never actually let go of it when the user was >>>back at the keyboard. Exiting ZA let that go and internet and lan were >>>restored. You have the option to turn that feature OFF but even that didn't >>>stop the whole thing happening. So, about the only thing you could do was to >>>set the auto lock as high as it could go and turn the feature off. It would >>>still go off after that many minutes had passed (which I believe is 999 in >>>the PRO version and 99 in the free version) and lock you out again but it
>>>was delayed by that much, at least.
>>>
>>>You CAN set certain programs to pass by its' lock, however. So, if you have >>>some computers almost always chattering away on a distributed project but >>>otherwise not touched, you could allow those programs to pass on even >>>though, should you attempt to get out with a simple web browser (where it >>>wasn't allowed to pass the lock), you cant. Saves some stuffing about on >>>such machines and let's face it - the more "free" some company execs see, >>>the more likely they are to use it. Surprising how many Windows based
>>>companies use free ZA.
>>>
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