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Re: WEEPING FOR WEP
From: Troy Cregger <tcregger () kennedyinfo com>
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 09:11:36 -0400

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Ahh those windows, drafty things, always letting the elements in, might
want to get some plastic up over em'... better yet, replace them altogether.


- -tlc

Mike Vasquez wrote:
Nice, even better.  So that means a lot of the higher end APs that use
sophisticated techniques (smaller IV pools, dynamic, etc) are going to
be much less effective.  I know a few large entities that will be
affected negatively.  Time to seriously upgrade the wireless security!

People who don't think they need more than wep are fooling themselves. 
Kids will a) build that cool pringles can antenna to experiment... b)
run kismet to explore the wireless around them, and c) practice their
wepcracking on your network.  what's next?  Exploring your windows
machines once they're on.

They'll be destructive just b/c they can.  Keylogger on your home pc? 
cake.  Do you patch every day?  All they need is one windows
vulnerability to get access to all your data.  Anything think that if
they wait long enough, a windows flaw will come around?  hrm?  and
*then* your network will be... their network.

It's really not that far fetched. 



On 4/6/07, *george_ou () lanarchitect net
<mailto:george_ou () lanarchitect net>* < george_ou () lanarchitect net
<mailto:george_ou () lanarchitect net>> wrote:

    With the newest crack released earlier this week from the German
    researchers that reduces the number of packets by an order of
    magnitude, that's under 1 minute on average with ARP replay on an
    802.11g network.  About 20 seconds average if the network is going
    full blast on its own.
    http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/Ou/?p=464
     
     
    George

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        Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] WEEPING FOR WEP
        From: "Mike Vasquez" <mike.vasquez () gmail com
        <mailto:mike.vasquez () gmail com>>
        Date: Fri, April 06, 2007 1:22 pm
        To: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk
        <mailto:full-disclosure () lists grok org uk>

        And traffic rate shouldn't be in the discussion either, since
        arp-replay allows enough packets to be captured, on most home
        equipment, in about 20 minutes if you're unlucky, and attacking
        128-bit wep.  64 bit keys can be had in under 5 minutes, 128 in
        under 10, and all you have to do is be connected for that length
        of time.



        On 4/6/07, *george_ou () lanarchitect net
        <mailto:george_ou () lanarchitect net>* <
        george_ou () lanarchitect net <mailto:george_ou () lanarchitect net>>
        wrote:

            But WPA-PSK mode is even easier to use than WEP.  Why would
            you use WEP.  Distance isn't really a problem with a pringle
            can antenna.
             

            George


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