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Re: [Full-Disclosure] (Psexec on *NIX)
From: "James Matthews" <nytrokiss () gmail com>
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 23:06:14 -0500

But naturally it happens all the time! That's what i love about computer
security when ever you try to tell someone to do something normal and smart
they do the polar opposite =)

On 2/4/07, Q-Ball <qballus () gmail com> wrote:

On 2/2/07, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu> wrote:
> On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 13:40:47 +0530, Raj Mathur said:
> > I believe we have had this discussion before, but I'll iterate my
> > beliefs in favour of allowing direct root access again:
>
> > - Key-based root logins are quite secure.  I don't see any reason why
> > key-based root login would be any less secure than permitting a user
> > login followed by an sudo.
>
> It's not the security of the login itself - it's the ability to create
> an audit trail of which userid performed an action.  If you can find
> some other way to...
>

Yes ability to audit is important, and you can still retain
accountably with direct root logons depending upon configuration but
there are two major security problems
with direct root logons:
- Remote brute forcing. Personally I'd rather someone crack 2 accounts
rather than just one, but maybe that's just me ;-)
- Security should be implemented on a least privilege basis. Logging
on as root as opposed to a user, isn't always required and just
increases your window of opportunity eg. SSH channel attacks, key
loggers, brute forcing, etc.Quite often sudo should suffice for
regular tasks.

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