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From: "Joey Mengele" <joey.mengele () hushmail com>
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 23:32:49 -0400

Oh Nick, you're so dreamy!


On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:20:27 -0400 Nick FitzGerald <nick () virus-
l.demon.co.uk> wrote:
shadown wrote:

Just some hashed for the record.

CA eTrust (vulnpack):

Cool -- thanks for that info...

Sergio Alvarez
Security, Research & Development
IT Security Consultant
email: shadown () gmail com

This message is confidential.  ...

Yet you wilfully and knowingly posted it to a public-access 
list with tens of thousands of subscribers and that is well-known 
to be 
archived in many places across the net?

You must be a prize moron...

...  It may also contain information that is
privileged or otherwise legally exempt from disclosure.  ...

...who can't afford a lawyer with half a clue, and will now never 
able to meaningfully defend any kind of accidental Email-borne 
"disclosure" of anything, as you've just admitted, on the public 
record, that you are too stupid to tell if something is privileged 
legally exempt from disclosure, THUS your only legally defensible 
position regarding such material in future is to ensure that you 
handle any of it, but as (by your own admission) you cannot tell 
that it is, you must cut yourself off from all information, a 
impossible task.  In short, you've put yourself in the paradoxical 

position of being both knowingly and negligently responsible for 
and all "improper" disclosures of any and all "sensitive" material 
should ever happen across in future.

Good luck ever getting hired again -- it would take a seriously 
employer to take on such a liability as you!

...  If you have
received it by mistake ...

As you say it _is_ confidential and I have NO existing relevant 
"relationship" with you, I MUST have received this by mistake....

... please let us know by e-mail ...

...and I have a good faith belief that the mailing list software 
deliver this is to you by Email, so I've fulfilled that part of 
"deal".  But what about the rest of the F-D subscribers?  You'll 
get a 
_LOT_ of Email...

...immediately ...

Although I wrote this as quickly as I could and sent it 
thereafter, I didn't read your message till several hours after 
receiving it -- I hope that doesn't mean I didn't do it 

... and
delete it from your system; ...

No.  Why should I?  Because _YOU_ are a moron and made a stupid 

In case it's not already nice and clear, I'll try to make it even 
clearer why this kind of "Email AUP" is _THOROUGHLY_ bogus.

Imagine that I totally accidentally ran you over with my car BUT 
told you that the terms and conditions of my having run you over 
that you have to accept that I'm incompetent to judge whether I 
drive or not [that's the earlier stuff], that you are to forget it 
happened [above]...

... should also not copy the message nor
disclose its contents to anyone. Many thanks.

...and that you are never to tell anyone anything about the 

Do you think that would "protect" me in court if you actually had 
temerity to sue me for damages or some such?

Would any lawyer with at least two good brain cells (yes -- a very 
breed) sensibly take _my_ case?


Nick FitzGerald

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