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Re: mac trojan in-the-wild
From: Nick FitzGerald <nick () virus-l demon co uk>
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 11:18:04 +1300
reepex to me:
Yes, today, the average level of clue among Mac users is probably a
shade higher than amongst Windows users,
Is this a joke? The reason people switch to macs is because they cannot
handle simple tasks. Isnt the main thing said by new mac users is 'it just
works' meaning 'I couldnt figure out windows' . The main users of macs are
liberal arts students and hippies .. and we all know the technical level of
No, it's not a joke.
First, a lot of very clueful security folk, CompSci academics and so on
will "only" (or, at least, "only for my real work") use Macs. They may
well just be heavy-duty-security-clueful enough to drag the average
graphic artist, liberal arts, etc level above the Windows waterline.
Second, in fact, I don't even care if it is badly wrong.
I'm happy to concede to the Mac fanboyz that their buddies may, in
fact, have a slight edge in the security clue arena _across the whole
population of Mac users_. I will quickly point out things just like
what you said if they seriously try to claim they have a significant
edge, but my point still holds up allowing them what they perceive as
the "but we're smarter" high-ground. The point is, as I thought I was
making clear, even if it's true it doesn't actually help them because
we are still talking about two seriously overlapping _population
distributions_ (but if they continue to insist it does, all they do is
show their "debate" is driven by ideology rather than facts and
You've just seen the redoubtable Dr Neal K messing this up big time, so
even the seriously security clueful are not necessarily on top of this.
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Re: mac trojan in-the-wild Thor (Hammer of God) (Nov 01)
Re: mac trojan in-the-wild Adam St. Onge (Nov 02)
Re: mac trojan in-the-wild Paul Schmehl (Nov 02)
Re: mac trojan in-the-wild Jay Sulzberger (Nov 02)