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Re: EUSecWest CFP Closes April 14th (confMay21/22 2008)
From: "Dragos Ruiu" <dr () kyx net>
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:09:36 -0700

Dude, since you've decided to babble at the security community, I'd suggest you
learn something about it before trying to re-work it. Calling, me, (heh) a big
company, and starting quixotic "revolutions" isn't a good use of this space.
Not that I don't love you plastering my conference name all over your rantings,
but even *I* am getting bored of this thread now.

cheers,
--dr

-----Original Message-----
From: full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk
[mailto:full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk] On Behalf Of n3td3v
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 3:56 PM
To: John Cartwright
Cc: n3td3v; full-disclosure () lists grok org uk
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] EUSecWest CFP Closes April 14th (confMay21/22
2008)

On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 11:31 PM, n3td3v <xploitable () gmail com> wrote:
On 4/11/08, n3td3v <xploitable () gmail com> wrote:

On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:51 PM,  <malix () hush com> wrote:
vulnerability disclosures

That's what the list is supposed to be for before e-commerce moved in.

I'm calling for John Cartwright to drop Secunia as a sponsor and make
the list be funded by public donations.

If we don't, this whole e-commerce thing with this list is going to
get worse and worse every year.

There are tons of open source projects that manage to run off public
donations, I'm calling for this to happen.

We don't need Secunia or e-commerce to run and host Full-Disclosure...
we can run it ourselves.

This e-mail is being sent to John Cartwright directly, because we've
got to stop profiteering on the list in every way possible.

n3td3v


I see Full-Disclosure as the peoples mailing list, its not a clone of
Securityfocus and we shouldn't let it turn into such.

Keep the uniqueness of Full-Disclosure and have it run by public donations.

Reject profiteering.

I remember back in the day when Full-Disclosure was underground and
wasn't e-commerce oriented, its time to move it back to the peoples
mailing list funded by the people.

The industry think Full-Disclosure is a soft touch, unmoderated clone
of Securityfocus, think again.

People outcry on this list when we don't agree with something and
thats whats happening now.

Its time for a revolution to happen.

n3td3v

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