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Re: To clear the air and conspiracy about n3td3v
From: n3td3v <xploitable () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:06:46 +0100

On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Ureleet <ureleet () gmail com> wrote:
best email youve ever written.  clearly you dont know much.  but thank
you for admitting it.  next time, when you say that you are part of
mi6, we will know not to believe you.  everyone print out this email
and tack it in your cube, read it everyday so that we all know that
he's just a pundit and actually has no skill.

Why did you ruin the build up to Web Application Security Awareness
Day? It was because of what you and Valdis said on the weeks running
upto it that nobody post anything. I mentioned mi6 to try and scare
you and stop you annoying me.

Your excuse for harassing me on the weeks running upto it was don't
post anything on May 1 so n3td3v can't make a name for himself, but
the day wasn't about me making a name it was about people disclosing
throw away vulnerabilities like cross-site scripting that people are
usually too shy to post on a normal day, because those bugs seem too
insignificant and too lame to post and don't usually give them enough
hacker points on a normal day. With Web Application Security Awareness
Day it was ment to bring credibility back to web application security
bugs like XSS, but you didn't see it that way, you thought it was
about me making a name for myself, even though I already had a name
for myself already because of the bad press and conspiracy links
between me and Gobbles, whoever the heck he is.

So everyone knows who n3td3v is, but the mystery remains, who is
Gobbles??? He is the real hacker you should be tracking, you've wasted
all your time and resources on trashing me for no reason just because
you thought I was some elite hacker called Gobbles? I'm still trying
to work out in my head what all the attention is on me for and why
people thought I was someone called Gobbles and that I was three

If that isn't enough to fuck my head up I don't know what is, a
forensic study on me, just because some idiot (Neal Krawetz) thought I
was Gobbles???

I don't know who Gobbles is, I have never spoke to Gobbles, I have
nothing to do with him and don't want to know him. He seems to be some
elite hacker, which someone thought was me, but I have no idea about
him and don't know who he is.

All the best,


On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 10:12 AM, n3td3v <xploitable () gmail com> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Garrett M. Groff <groffg () gmgdesign com> wrote:
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That's why there are email filters. Pls start using them if you value your
sanity. The kind of "publicity" he/they're getting only encourages the
naughty behavior.

I don't understand what you mean by they? Are you talking about my google group?
The people who post on my google group are people like you, I don't understand.

And what is naughty behaviour? Giving my opinion on security topics
and criticizing people I don't agree with?

I'm a white hat, I don't agree with naughty behaviour and to date I
haven't seen any naughty behaviour apart from people who try and paint
me in bad light.

The google group is the same concept as funsec and I am the same
concept as Gadi Evron... my google group was around long before funsec
was around, so I didn't copy him.

I'm not a hacker, I read news articles and give my opinion on them,
thats all I do, there is no hacker group, I am not a hacker, there is
nothing going on behind the scenes, because there is no behind the

The google group is a bunch of security professionals like you, who
like the stories I post to the group and enjoy reading my opinions.

Stop believing the bad press what you read by a bunch of idiots who
don't know me, Neal Krawetz, Robert Lemos, Alex Eckelberry etc who
tried to say I was a hacker, who has zero-day etc.

They were just horrible people who don't really know me who have
helped to ruin my life, my mental health hasn't been the same since I
read accusations about me that I was a hacker and I'm doing something

SecurityFocus, they never even emailed me for my side of the story, I
went away to university and then realised an article and PDF file had
been written about me, I couldn't cope with the pressure, so I had to
drop out of university because of what was post about me, because I
couldn't cope with the strain.

Here I am now, picking up the peices and unemployed with no university
degree, until I can reapply when i'm feeling better after the stress.

I will not stop posting my opinion on security topics, if I did that
will mean they have won by telling their readers I was a hacker with

All the best,


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