Full Disclosure: Re: Should nmap cause a DoS on cisco routers?

["Dobbins, Roland" <rdobbins () arbor net>]

On Jul 2, 2010, at 5:59 PM, Thierry Zoller wrote:

> If   it   is   a  default  configuration  and you can remotely cause a
> denial of service condition  :  it  is a vulnerability.
>
> If   it   is   a non standard configuration  and you can remotely cause a
> denial of service condition  :  it  is a vulnerability.

If the DoS is volumetric in nature - i.e., causing lots of packets to be punted to the RP, thus overwhelming the 
processing of the device and causing it to drop control-plane traffic - that's not a vulnerability, in the classic 
sense (i.e., a code-based exploit of some kind), especially given that it can be mitigated via BCPs.  

Otherwise, you'd classify any and all DDoS as vulnerabilities, too - and while many of them are in fact *architectural* 
or *design* flaws, they're still not vulnerabilities in the sense that most of the people on this list use the term.

Having spent a great deal of time concentrating on the 'A' part of the C-I-A triad, I agree with you 100% that A is as 
important (more important, in my estimation) than the other legs of the triad; but running around claiming that there's 
some 'vulnerability' which must be patched, when a) we don't know that for a fact, b) it seems rather unlikely, given 
past experience and the symptoms reported, and c) exhibiting some bizarre antipathy towards implementing industry BCPs 
doesn't really help, very much.

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