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Re: Congratulations Andrew
From: gillis jones <gillis57 () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 12:06:55 -0800

Typically I just lurk and watch the much more opinionated of the list
discuss. However,


I'm gunna disagree here, If you put something up on a publically facing
webpage, and it's supposed to be confidential information. It sure as hell
better have a non-default password, let alone a password period! It would be
like the military putting up confidential battle plans online w/o a barrier
and expecting the enemy not to use them. It's simply idiotic, and ridiculous
to try and prosecute someone for your idiocy.

Now that I've said my two cents, Im going to sink back into the depths.

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Thor (Hammer of God) <Thor () hammerofgod com
wrote:

 By the same logic, then yes you would.  Which is why the statement “if a
system has no password, then you have a legal right to whatever data is on
it” is complete horse hockey.



Don’t take technical advice from your lawyer, and don’t take legal advice
from people on security lists.



t



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By that same standard.. if you leave your house unlocked.... does that give
someone the right to enter it?

just my thoughts
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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 19:58:27 +0200
From: uuf6429 () gmail com
To: tbiehn () gmail com
CC: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk; Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Congratulations Andrew

Reminds be of Al Capone and tax evasion ;-)

Good ol' America.



 On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 7:49 PM, T Biehn <tbiehn () gmail com> wrote:

Yes.
The FBI was investigating the AT&T incident, presumably the AT&T incident
was what the fed were serving against.
What possible valid search warrant could be executed? There was no hack,
breach, illegal access of data, or anything else for that matter.

If you leave a system online with no password which allows you to scrape
content you have a legal right to scrape that content.

-Travis



On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:10 AM, <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu> wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 10:09:22 EDT, T Biehn said:

I doubt the search warrant will hold up in court.

Do you have any actual basis for saying that?  Sure, the warrant might be
bullshit, it might be solid - the article doesn't give us enough info
either
way to tell.

"Auernheimer was also arrested in March for giving a false name to law
enforcement officers responding to a parking complaint."

Sad.  The dude may have the intelligence to pull the hack, but not have the
wisdom to not dig a hole deeper. Just man up and take the frikking parking
ticket. ;)



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