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Re: Congratulations Andrew
From: Christian Sciberras <uuf6429 () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 00:22:37 +0200

Disillusioning oneself about freedom is getting old. You see, your
(proposed) perception of freedom is nothing less then the result of what you
call oppression.
Since nowadays a call-to-arms is as easy as calling the local news agency, I
very much doubt the randomness ("freedom") of your choice - ie; you got hurt
and tried crying in the hope of something positive happens.

As to "real computer research", please define or specify what you mean by
broad statements. I would assume that by "real computer research <snip> [by]
youths" you mean a "clan" which shares "cheats" on how to get into systems -
hardly professional, and what today many are labeling as "script kiddy
stuff".

There's a reason why they're "demonizing" [this behavior], which is because
it doesn't help at all.
Let's compare getting into some system as the same as getting into a bank
vault.
You could ask a bank to simulate a robbery and at the very least, return
what you stole.
Happens those "youth hackers" don't return what they stole.

For instance, do I really need to print 2k pages of emails for proving a
vulnerability?
We're talking about a freakin 2000 pages worth of emails. The affected
company can't trust the hackers even if it wanted.
But wait a second, we're talking about underground hackers which would share
emails but not divulge it. OK. Right.

Lastly, as I already said, an illegal activity doesn't give me the right to
commit a (possibly) even worse one.
So as a hacker do I get the right to sell and make use of illegal drugs?

Case closed.





On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Iadnah Enoch <iadnah () uplinklounge com>wrote:

Perhaps we should be looking at/analysing the corruption, flaws, etc. in
the legal systems of various countries instead of gloating about various
people who are probably not malicious individuals being slammed by the
system. This sort of community used to be about freedoms, counter-culture,
and that sort of thing. Have we all forgotten our heritage?

Real computer security research of any sort is being demonized in the West
to the point that fewer and fewer youths are exploring it like they used to.
This is creating a very large deficit in our intellectual culture that puts
Western soceity at a serious disadvantage to the rest of the world,
especially with the hacktivism and general hacker interest that seems to be
proliferating in the Muslim world, the Eastern Block, and China.
 On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 4:07 AM, Benji <me () b3nji com> wrote:

 Same thing?

Sent from my iPhone

On 25 Jun 2010, at 08:34, Ed Carp <edcarp () gmail com> wrote:

  Auernheimer was also arrested in March for giving a false name to law
enforcement officers responding to a parking complaint.

Idiot.

Sent from my iPad, probably mobile

On Jun 25, 2010, at 12:06 AM, Christian Sciberras < <uuf6429 () gmail com>
uuf6429 () gmail com> wrote:

 Riiiight. Who do you think would buy/bite that?





On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Escher Auernheimer <<gluttony () gmail com><gluttony () gmail com>
gluttony () gmail com> wrote:

Rejoice in a righteous man's persecution at your peril.


On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 2:54 PM, T Biehn < <tbiehn () gmail com><tbiehn () gmail com>
tbiehn () gmail com> wrote:

Ouch dude:
<http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2010/06/23/tor-g20-arrest.html><http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2010/06/23/tor-g20-arrest.html>
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2010/06/23/tor-g20-arrest.html

Guess you ate a dick too.

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Byron Sonne < <blsonne () halvdan com><blsonne () halvdan com>
blsonne () halvdan com> wrote:

Looks like Andrew/weev/n3td3v finally gets to do what he likes the
most
Performing fellatio on his fellow inmates
<http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/16/auernheimer_arrested/><http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/16/auernheimer_arrested/>
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/16/auernheimer_arrested/

Oh man, pretty sweet! I've been waiting years to see weev eat a dick,
and the time has come at last.

Maybe there is a god.

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