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Re: go public to avoid jail
From: J Roger <securityhocus () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 13:09:43 -0700


There were excerpts in the Wired article, and there are more in the
court record


One has to begin wondering:

A) Why did Gonzales keep logs of incriminating evidence against himself and
his friends in the first place?
B) What motivation did Gonzales have for rolling over on Stephen like that?
Given Stephen's minor involvement in the case, it seems like Gonzales
wouldn't get much by way of a plea deal by turning him in.
C) Another Wired article states that Gonzales was an informer paid an annual
salary by the Secret Service. This revelation apparently was brought to
light by Stephen himself. Did The_UT know this was the case before his
arrest or only after? If he knew these circumstances prior to his arrest
then why would he be willing to create a custom tool for a person he knows
is informing on people?


JRoger

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Ed Carp <erc () pobox com> wrote:

There were excerpts in the Wired article, and there are more in the
court record - I'll see if I can find the link in my browser history.
Quite interesting reading, actually...

On 5/3/10, J Roger <securityhocus () gmail com> wrote:

I can see that you have no experience with the legal system other than
what you've seen on TV (which is, to say, none at all).


I know this is the Internet but you don't need to be quite so rude.
Perhaps
I just haven't been arrested (caught) as many times as you have.

If you read
the IRC logs presented by the prosecution, it is pretty clear what the
motive was.


I have not seen these IRC logs. Have you? Could you provide a reference
for
them please?


JRoger

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Ed Carp <erc () pobox com> wrote:

I can see that you have no experience with the legal system other than
what you've seen on TV (which is, to say, none at all).  If you read
the IRC logs presented by the prosecution, it is pretty clear what the
motive was.  Your "release it to the public and you have no liability"
argument will land you in prison if you try it - go to any attorney
and ask.  Your emotional "prove Stephen is a saint" attempt at
twisting what happens in the legal system doesn't change the FACT that
the burden of proof was easily met by the prosecution and that the
defense's arguments, while designed to sway people more used to
emotional appeals than logic, did little to impress the court, with
very predictable results.



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