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Re: Getting Off the Patch
From: "Thor (Hammer of God)" <thor () hammerofgod com>
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 03:08:03 +0000

Sounds like you've got it nailed :)

Sent from my Windows Phone
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From: Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 2:29 PM
To: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Getting Off the Patch

Apologies if I have completely missed the point here, as I have only skimmed through this.

Most people wouldn't rely solely on patch day to protect their systems/network, they would also employ the use of a 
NIDS / HIDS to mitigate the risk further (of course, said solutions should have a large community base and/or a record 
of releasing 0day incrementals in a timely manner). On top of this, workstation based anti virus packages (such as AVG 
or w/e), to help prevent those pesky drive by kits.

Taking all that into consideration, I would agree that patching shouldn't be considered the "be all and end all" of 
security, but that's no reason to disable patching completely, surely? The more layers of protection you add, the 
better your odds are.

The idea of presenting these ideals as a training opportunity is a clever idea, but only if the trainers themselves are 
established names in the security field, otherwise it will be another case of "the blind leading the blind".

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