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Re: Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default
From: james () zero-internet org uk
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 14:15:17 +0000

I'll second that; the isp I work at has a sizeable ubuntu customer base and these are customers who have made an 
informed decision.

Now; let's consider ubuntu's inherited security from debian such as configuring a 'mortal account' (admittedly can be 
ignored in the preseed) and then the lack of perms on su; must use sudo.

This is a distro that is newbie friendly but is not designed specifically for them.

Unfortunately, though, you make a distro with simplified tasks (printer installation a fantastic example) and people, 
especially long term linuxers- though I ought to be included I guess, remember back all too easily to when everything 
was an uphill struggle: "what do you mean I don't have to compile this as a flipping module? That's not freedom!" Being 
all too familiar.

Just my tuppence worth anyway.

Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

-----Original Message-----
From: Johan Nestaas <johannestaas () gmail com>
Sender: full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 12:04:46 
To: Olivier<feuille () bibibox fr>
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Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default

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