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Re: Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default
From: xD 0x41 <secn3t () gmail com>
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 08:31:12 +1100

Already 2 conflicting answers,abit of confusion i might say....  this
is exactly why it should be ONE flippin binary.




On 20 November 2011 06:54, Dan Kaminsky <dan () doxpara com> wrote:
Er, sudo bash gives you /dev/kmem, access to the hard drive block device...

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On Nov 19, 2011, at 11:44 AM, james () zero-internet org uk wrote:

Effective user id as a short answer; compare sudo whoami and su - whoami


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From: Dan Kaminsky <dan () doxpara com>
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 11:36:47
To: james () zero-internet org uk<james () zero-internet org uk>
Cc: Johan Nestaas<johannestaas () gmail com>; full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk<full-disclosure-bounces 
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Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default

What is the security differential between su and sudo bash?

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On Nov 19, 2011, at 6:15 AM, james () zero-internet org uk wrote:

I'll second that; the isp I work at has a sizeable ubuntu customer base and these are customers who have made an 
informed decision.

Now; let's consider ubuntu's inherited security from debian such as configuring a 'mortal account' (admittedly can 
be ignored in the preseed) and then the lack of perms on su; must use sudo.

This is a distro that is newbie friendly but is not designed specifically for them.

Unfortunately, though, you make a distro with simplified tasks (printer installation a fantastic example) and 
people, especially long term linuxers- though I ought to be included I guess, remember back all too easily to when 
everything was an uphill struggle: "what do you mean I don't have to compile this as a flipping module? That's not 
freedom!" Being all too familiar.

Just my tuppence worth anyway.

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From: Johan Nestaas <johannestaas () gmail com>
Sender: full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 12:04:46
To: Olivier<feuille () bibibox fr>
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Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default

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