Full Disclosure: Re: VPN providers and any providers in general...

[Jeffrey Walton <noloader () gmail com>]

On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Laurelai <laurelai () oneechan org> wrote:
> On 10/3/2011 12:37 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Laurelai<laurelai () oneechan org>  wrote:
> > > On 10/3/2011 12:16 PM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:35 PM, Laurelai<laurelai () oneechan org>  wrote:
> > >
> > > On 10/3/2011 10:42 AM, Antony widmal wrote:
> > >
> > > Using an external VPN provider to cover your trace clearly shows your
> > > incompetency and your idiot assumption.
> > > Trying to blame the VPN provider rather than accepting your mistake
> > > and learning from it clearly show your 3 years old mentality.
> > >
> > > Also, could you please stop posting as GLOW Xd as well ?
> > > We do not need your schizophrenic script kiddie "lolololol", "xD",
> > > hugs,  spamming on this mailing list.
> > >
> > > You being on this mailing list is once again not the best idea.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Antony
> > >
> > > Actually XD and me are two different people. Second issues of privacy
> > > are always relevant, not understanding that law abiding individuals
> > > should always be concerned about companies that hand over personal info
> > > at the request of an authority figure are the ones with three year old
> > > mentalities.
> > >
> > > maybe they are law abiding companies? :)
> > > this whole fuss wouldn't have happened, if everybody could just stay a
> > > law abiding citizen.
> > >
> > > The idea that "if you've done nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry
> > > about" assumes that the government is full of good people that would not
> > > abuse their power, ever. Even if this were true now, we cannot be sure
> > > it'll
> > > be true in the future and its damn sure not true now.
> > Definetly not true in the past. Confer: Martin Luther King was
> > subjected to tens of thousands of illegal wire taps by the FBI because
> > he (and a lot of other people) felt black folks should get the same
> > rights as white folks.
> >
> > The guy who did it was honored in death, and the bureau he helped
> > shape actually carries "fidelity" and "integrity" in their motto.
> > Twisted but true.
> >
> > Jeff
> I am glad there are people here who understand the need for real privacy in
> the modern age.
>
> The US Government has proven *repeatedly* that the more power it has the
> less trustworthy it is especially when it comes to privacy concerns.
The threat model should include government and corporate:
http://lists.randombit.net/pipermail/cryptography/2011-September/001474.html

Why is a third party (CAs) involved when a pre-exisiting relationship exisits:
http://lists.randombit.net/pipermail/cryptography/2011-September/001396.html

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