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Re: Rate Stratfor's Incident Response
From: metasansana () gmail com
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 21:08:45 +0000

Thus the sad state of security continues. While the experts and those with good intent continue to debate  the line 
between legal and illegal, responsible and reckless, the malicious hackers continue to profit from the ignorance of 
average users and the sites they trust.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Laurelai <laurelai () oneechan org>
Sender: full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 14:03:36 
To: <full-disclosure () lists grok org uk>
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Rate Stratfor's Incident Response

On 1/13/12 1:24 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote:
--On January 13, 2012 12:03:22 PM -0500 Benjamin Kreuter
<ben.kreuter () gmail com>  wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 10:37:31 -0600
Paul Schmehl<pschmehl_lists () tx rr com>  wrote:

--On January 12, 2012 3:16:19 PM -0500 Benjamin Kreuter
<ben.kreuter () gmail com>  wrote:

The law is not going to stop the really bad people
from attacking your system, nor is it going to stop them from
profiting from whatever access they gain; sending law enforcement
after someone who reports problems to you accomplishes little and
only discourages people who might try to help you.

Assuming everyone's motives are as pure as the driven snow is a bit
naive, don't you think?
Are there lingering doubts about the motives of someone who is
reporting a vulnerability to you?  They could have just profited from
their discovery and never bothered to tell you.  In any case, what have
you accomplished by sending the cops after *someone who is helping you*?

Unless you're a complete fool, yes.  You say you're helping me, but you
broke in to my server.  How do I know you didn't help yourself to a
permanent back door?

Again, it's naive to think that most people are motivated purely by a
desire to help others, especially when they are actively intruding into
other people's assets.

YOU might say thank you, but I'll be taking the server offline, grabbing
forensic images and rebuilding it long before I get around to saying thank
you.

Well just remember they could have *not* told you and helped themselves 
to a backdoor. If they wanted to door you they probably wouldn't have 
told you.

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