Full Disclosure: Re: XKeyscore sees 'nearly EVERYTHING you do online

[Gary Baribault <gary () baribault net>]

Don't forget that they also have to back haul that data to their data
centres !! They would have to have secret agreements with all of the
Tier 1 carriers. Sure sounds far fetched!

Gary B


On 08/01/2013 03:51 PM, XF wrote:
> Right. But where are their tap ? In Internet Exchange Point ? In AS ?
> And how can they do that ? "Hello, I'm NSA, can I get a TAP on your
> network" :-)  This would say that ISP agree and the amount of data to
> transfer would be so vast . How can they transfer all this amount of
> data into their system ??
>
>
> Le 1 août 2013 à 20:56, Gary Baribault <gary () baribault net
> <mailto:gary () baribault net>> a écrit :
>
> > Optically tapping ALL of the submarine cable going into and out of
> > the U.S. would still not give them ALL of the claimed data. They have
> > to be tapping all of the major traffic exchange sites in the U.S. to
> > get this kind of data.
> >
> > Gary B
> >
> >  On 08/01/2013 11:31 AM, XF wrote:
> > > Did you understood how they collect data ? This is not clear for me...ISP backdoor ?
> > Optical tap on sub marine wire ?
> > > Le 1 août 2013 à 16:26, Georgi Guninski <guninski () guninski com> a
> > écrit :
> > > > it will be interesting to me what will remain of the nsa
> > > > when the chinese comrades stop giving fresh money to the usa.
> > > >
> > > > Detroit news are not very pink.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 11:20:27PM +1200, Hugh Davenport wrote:
> > > > > meanwhile, in new zealand, prime minister suggests that we aren't
> > > > > the slaves for nsa...
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2013-08-01 19:23, Georgi Guninski wrote:
> > > > > > XKeyscore sees 'nearly EVERYTHING you do online
> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/07/31/prism_put_in_the_shade_by_leak_about_even_more_powerful_snoop_tool/
> > > > > > New NSA tool exposed: XKeyscore sees 'nearly EVERYTHING you do
> > online'
> > > > > > From the presentation:
> > > > > > * Show me all the exploitable machines in country X
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * How do I find a cell of terrorust that has no
> > > > > > connection to known strong-selectors
> > > > > > **Anomalous events
> > > > > > ***Someone who is using encryption
> > > > > >
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