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Re: Fwd: "Skills gap"?
From: Paul Ferguson <fergdawgster () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 13:33:36 -0800

Throwing gasoline on a blazing fire, eh?  ;-)

- ferg

On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Steve Pirk <pirkster () gmail com> wrote:

I think IT workers need to unionize </ducks> :-)

On Nov 24, 2012 12:56 PM, "Paul Ferguson" <fergdawgster () gmail com> wrote:

Forgot to copy the list...

- ferg


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Paul Ferguson <fergdawgster () gmail com>
Date: Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [funsec] "Skills gap"?
To: Dirt Nap <dirtnap () gmail com>


Well, I can't speak to every situation, of course, but I'm finding it
quite hard to fill open jobs. And it's not really a matter of salary,
but I *do* find it somewhat troublesome that anyone who has worked in
Infosec for any significant amount of time expects a "rock star"
salary... Having said that, I am happy to pay people above "entry
level", but let's be for real here. :-)

- ferg

p.s. I am hiring. :-)

On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Dirt Nap <dirtnap () gmail com> wrote:

The problem I find in my area is when it comes to info sec jobs they
have a
certain level of expectations.  For example they expect someone who has
worked info sec for 10 years to accept a salary that is to say the least
entry level.  When you try to negotiate with them to bump the salary up
they
refuse.  The position doesn't get filled, or if it does it becomes open
after 90 days because the person seeks employment elsewhere.

On Nov 24, 2012 2:48 PM, "Paul Ferguson" <fergdawgster () gmail com> wrote:

B.S.


There *are* significant "wage increases, at least in Infosec.

- ferg


On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon &
Hannah <rmslade () shaw ca> wrote:

I see a lot of companies complaining that they can't get
skilled/trained
infosec
people.

I see a lot of experienced infosec people out of work.



http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/25/magazine/skills-dont-pay-the-bills.html



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