Honeypots: RE: honey pots and laws

[Alexandre Dulaunoy <adulau () foo be>]

Yes but  is only  a convention. There  is a proposal  directive (quite
linked to this  convention). If they are a  national application, this
should  come from  the directive  (IMHO). For  the moment,  it's quite
vague. 

For  the comment,  there is  a discussion  for  "legitimate scientific
researchers", maybe Honeynet could felt into this part. 

(12)    There is a need to avoid over-criminalisation, particularly of
        trivial or minor
conduct, as well as the  need to avoid criminalising right-holders and
        authorised
persons  such  as  legitimate  private or  business  users,  managers,
        controllers and
operators of networks  and systems, legitimate scientific researchers,
        and authorised
persons testing  a system,  whether a person  within the company  or a
        person appointed
externally and given permission to test the security of a system. 


The problem with legislation is not easy... 


On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Fernando Martins wrote:

> You can read carefully the Convention on Cybercrime from the Council of
> Europe, to search for some hint, like in the hope that french laws don't
> respect the Convention :>
>
> http://conventions.coe.int/Treaty/FR/Treaties/Html/185.htm (in french)
> http://conventions.coe.int/Treaty/en/Treaties/Html/185.htm (in english)
>
> > From 2 or 3 cases I know from France, my advice is to be carefull ...
> FM
>
> » -----Original Message-----
> » From: Roderick ASSELINEAU [mailto:rdasselineau () yahoo fr] 
> » Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 12:19 PM
> » To: honeypots () securityfocus com
> » Subject: honey pots and laws
> » 
> » 
> »     I was thinking about preparing a honey pot some days 
> » ago however some of my friends told me that it was illegal in 
> » France, because it would be "encouraging piracy", according 
> » to french law he thought. Most of people receiving aren't 
> » surely french however, if someone (maybe a lawyer, who knows 
> » ? :p) knew about the answer or had any questions about that, 
> » it would be nice.
> » 
> » Best regards,
> » 
> » Roderick ASSELINEAU
> » -- 
> » Roderick ASSELINEAU <rdasselineau () yahoo fr>
> » 
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