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Intrusion Detection Systems mailing list archives

Re: kernel implementations
From: mht () clark net (mht () clark net)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 02:35:44 -0700


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Not quite. NFR has the same type of issues as their competitors do.  None 
of the current IDS applications are capable of handling a large amount of 
packets (i.e. 1,000,000 jolt2 attacks).  Most of the IDS's almost go to 
100% CPU.  Implementing NFR correctly still requires extensive knowledge of 
TCP/IP as stated in their Getting Started Guide and Advanced User's 
Guide.  NFR stills needs quite a bit of work to produce the results you 
state below.  The NFR IDA appliance is a step in the right direction.
NFR still needs a lot of improvement in the number of signatures compared 
to the other products in IDS Enterprise segment.

The point is unclear here, one does need to go to a "kernel" based IDS 
system, one just needs to learn how to design an IDS system properly from 
existing technology.
In its true form, an IDS system is a traffic data collector.
At 06:43 PM 7/21/00 -0400, Dug Song wrote:
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On Fri, 21 Jul 2000, Robert Graham wrote:

For network-IDS, it doesn't really make sense to have a "kernel"
implementation.

who said anything about kernel mode network IDS?

i think john is just trying to expose more of the bare metal to the
application, exokernel style, with zero-copy packet sniffing.

NFR did something very similar, with excellent results.

-d.

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