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Re: NSF and the Birth of the Internet
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:14:26 -0400



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From: "Wendy M. Grossman" <wendyg () pelicancrossing net>
Date: August 19, 2008 12:13:15 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Cc: ip <ip () v2 listbox com>
Subject: Re: [IP] Re:       NSF and the Birth of the Internet
Reply-To: wendyg () pelicancrossing net

Yes. I used gopher back then but it was a painful experience, and it was very little of what I or anyone I knew did online. It might be reasonable to say that for a time Usenet was the INternet - even though Usenet didn't really require the Internet to exist. Go back to 1985-1995, and it's really notable how much was going on - consider, for example, how seriously Scientology took Usenet in 1993-1995 (as I documented at the time) when critics got going in alt.religion.scientology and how much resources they threw at trying to control that.

wg

David Farber wrote:
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From: Jim Thompson <jim () netgate com>
Date: August 19, 2008 7:22:25 AM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Cc: alberti () sanction net, Steve Goldstein <steve.goldstein () cox net>, DeWayne Townsend <d-town () tc umn edu>
Subject: Re: [IP] Re:      NSF and the Birth of the Internet
On Aug 19, 2008, at 1:02 AM, David Farber wrote:
Also the word "gopher" appears nowhere in the timeline, although for a
couple of years it WAS the Internet...
No, it wasn't.
I can get behind the idea that email was the Internet for a number of years. But while gopher and WAIS were popular for a brief period of time before NCSA shipped Mosaic and supported the IMG tag in HTML over HTTP, they were never responsible for anywhere near as much communication as email, to say nothing of things like USENET / NNTP.
Jim
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