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Bob raises an interesting and key question -- djf do read Comcast confirms 250GB cap effective October 1
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:09:36 -0400



Begin forwarded message:

From: "Bob Frankston" <Bob19-0501 () bobf frankston com>
Date: August 29, 2008 12:00:32 PM EDT
To: <dave () farber net>, "'ip'" <ip () v2 listbox com>
Cc: "'Tony Lauck'" <tlauck () madriver com>
Subject: RE: [IP] Re: do read Comcast confirms 250GB cap effective October 1

A quibble – it’s the first SQUARE mile around us. Once we think this way the policies we start asking lots of question and we can see the policies as arbitrary. The Internet isn’t just something out there – it’s in our homes and communities.

Comcast is telling me I can’t communicate with my neighbors. Why do we have “foreign” (out of town) companies limiting our communities’ ability to communicate? Why do we have to pay merely to mosey down the street?

Why can’t I let my neighbors watch their kids when they are playing in a pool behind my house?

Yet I can consume as much Comcast HDTV as I want without fearing a cap? Why must I be forced to repurpose a video distribution system for local connectivity?

Why do we give these companies the ability to define the future as nothing but more of the past? Why can’t we use local facilities for innovation, safety etc?

http://www.frankston.com/public


-----Original Message-----
From: David Farber [mailto:dave () farber net]
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 11:21
To: ip
Subject: [IP] Re: do read Comcast confirms 250GB cap effective October 1

Tony is a senior networking person who worked at DEC in their heyday djf

Begin forwarded message:

From: Tony Lauck <tlauck () madriver com>
Date: August 29, 2008 9:43:57 AM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Subject: Re: [IP] Re:   Comcast confirms 250GB cap effective October 1

Since a cap will not solve Comcast's congestion problem, if Comcast
persists in its ignorance their next step will be to lower the cap. In
an ideal world, this would lead to their demise, as happened with
Prodigy. Unfortunately, this is unlikely to happen because Comcast has
a last mile monopoly.

I could care less about companies such as Comcast, except as they are
monopolists. So long as last mile monopolies are allowed to exist it
will be possible for incompetently managed operations to continue to
exist. Without such a monopoly they will be subject to the creative
destruction of the marketplace and they will forced to change or they
will cease to exist.


Tony Lauck
https://www.aglauck.com


David Farber wrote:
> Good point djf
> -----Original Message-----
> From: travisk () gmail com [mailto:travisk () gmail com]
> Sent: Thu 8/28/2008 9:08 PM
> To: David Farber
> Subject: Re: [IP] Comcast confirms 250GB cap effective October 1
> Dave, do they really need to lower it??  As time goes on and data
> needs naturally expand (as they have steadily and predictably for
> decades), this restriction will hit more and more people.  I
> wouldn't be surprised if this same cap affected a material number of
> subs in 2-3 years time.
> Travis
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "David Farber" <dave () farber net>
> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:17:18 To: ip<ip () v2 listbox com>
> Subject: [IP] Comcast confirms 250GB cap effective October 1
> The will lower the cap as time goes on. I assume they will loudly
> advertise the respriction and I hope Verizon loudly advertises it
> does not YET. djf
> ________________________________
> From: Sunil Garg [mailto:sunil () sunilgarg com]
> Sent: Thu 8/28/2008 6:41 PM
> To: David Farber
> Subject: Comcast confirms 250GB cap effective October 1
> The IP crowd might be interested in this. VentureBeat reports:
> You just knew it was too good to last. Starting on October 1 of this
> year, Internet service provider Comcast will begin placing a cap on
> the amount of data its customers can access a month, DSLreports has
> learned <http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Comcast-250GB-Monthly-Cap-Goes-Live-October-1-97294
> > .
> The 250 gigabyte cap, now confirmed by Comcast <http://www.comcast.net/terms/network/amendment/
> > , represents on 14,000 of the company's 14.1 million users, it
> claims. While that may be true today, and while 250 gigabytes may
> seem like a very high cap, going forward, this is going to be
> problematic.
> http://venturebeat.com/2008/08/28/comcast-to-dam-and-damn-the-internet-with-usage-caps/
> Regards,
> Sunil
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