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Re: Equal capacity for equal pay!
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:55:04 -0400

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From: Tony Lauck <tlauck () madriver com>
Date: August 31, 2008 2:45:29 PM EDT
To: Bob Frankston <Bob19-0501 () bobf frankston com>
Cc: dave () farber net
Subject: Re: [IP] Equal capacity for equal pay!

There are really two questions:  policy and mechanism.

The intuitive notion is that the "upload" portion of a route is sender pays, with aggregation according to the business relationships of the networks, while the "download" portion of a route is receiver pays, again according to the business relationships of the networks.

Border routers should have sufficient information to classify traffic in this fashion if a backbone provider has a single border router. In the usual case that a backbone has multiple border routers then fine grained implementation of this rule will require the switches inside the network take cognizance of particular customers and their queue priority based on usage. It might be more efficient for the customer identity to be labeled on the packet at the ingress border router. Queue priorities are slowly changing, so it will not require a lot of bandwidth or processing to compute them, over and above counting packets and binning them to customers. If, as is desirable, traffic is counted only when it actually causes congestion, queue processors will have to ascertain when they are congested and count packets, allocating them to individual customers. This information will have to be occasionally aggregated and distributed throughout an AS.

Only those networks (or portions of a network) that are likely to become congested need congestion fairness mechanisms in their bowels. The likelihood of congestion can be reduced by overbuilding or by throttling packet entry to networks that do not implement proper congestion control mechanisms.

Tony Lauck

Bob Frankston wrote:
How do you apply this rule deep in the bowels of the network where packets
are packets are packets?
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From: David Farber [mailto:dave () farber net] Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 12:14
To: ip
Subject: [IP] Equal capacity for equal pay!

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