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Re: Comcast's FCC Filing Today
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 05:16:33 -0400
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From: "Livingood, Jason" <Jason_Livingood () cable comcast com>
Date: September 19, 2008 11:39:49 PM EDT
To: "Bob Frankston" <Bob19-0501 () bobf frankston com>, <nnsquad () nnsquad org
Subject: [ NNSquad ] Re: Comcast's FCC Filing Today
Hi Bob. Some replies below and some general comments following the IP
post you linked to below.
But first, I just wanted to clarify that the FCC filing today was
about our congestion management practices (present and future), rather
than the recently-clarified 250GB byte limit.
From: Bob Frankston [mailto:Bob19-0501 () bobf frankston com]
Sent: Fri 9/19/2008 11:19 PM
To: Livingood, Jason; 'Ted Koppel'; nnsquad () nnsquad org
Subject: RE: [ NNSquad ] Re: Comcast's FCC Filing Today
No surprise that I have a basic problem with the very idea that
engineering my connectivity with a subset of applications in mind
(http://www.frankston.com/?name=IPNeutralPurpose) among others.
[JL] I read that and noted you wrote "The important point is that
there is no need for you to make any assumptions about the devices in
my house or the protocols I use."
[JL] That was actually one of the many design goals with the new
congestion management system. So I think we basically agree on
One question is whether the cap will apply to local connectivity as
distance. Is there a limit to how long I can watch a broadcasts of local
city hall meetings? I presume the answer is "yes" and that it is a
[JL] A byte is a byte, no matter how far it traveled, what kind of
data it is, who it is from, etc.
Is there any technical reason why local traffic can't escape the cap?
Clearly the cap doesn't apply to traffic with my house (except when I
to bridge from my Verizon connected devices to my Comcast devices).
[JL] Well, for one, we'd have to start looking at the destination and
source addresses, and that's something I think most people would
prefer to avoid.
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