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Re: Republicans propose data retention laws targeting ISPs, home WiFi users
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:24:31 -0500



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From: "David S. Isenberg (isen)" <isen () isen com>
Date: February 20, 2009 8:34:30 AM EST
To: dave () farber net
Subject: Re: [IP] Republicans propose data retention laws targeting ISPs, home WiFi users

Dave,

If we had IPv6, we wouldn't need no stinking
temporary addresses, because IPv6 has approximately
enough permanent addresses for every atom in the
universe. Then "they" would know which IP address
did which communication, and we'd get a symmetrical
Internet where the distinction between client and
server would be moot. Not sure if this tradeoff
between safety and liberty is worth it, I'm just
saying that in this case we get a little liberty
*back* in the trade too.

David I
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On Feb 20, 2009, at 3:37 AM, David Farber wrote:



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From: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com>
Date: February 20, 2009 2:09:30 AM EST
To: dave () farber net
Subject: Republicans propose data retention laws targeting ISPs, home WiFi users

Dave,

IPers may be interested in my article from this evening:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10168114-38.html
Republican politicians on Thursday called for a sweeping new federal law that would require all Internet providers and operators of millions of WiFi access points, even hotels, local coffeeshops, and home users, to keep records about users for two years to aid police investigations... Translated, the Internet SAFETY Act applies not just to AT&T, Comcast, Verizon, and so on -- but also to the tens of millions of homes with WiFi access points that use the standard method of dynamically assigning temporary addresses.

The relevant bills:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:s.00436:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:h.r.01076:

It's unclear why Sen. Cornyn and Rep. Smith want to target home WiFi users (plus companies, universities, schools, libraries). Smith has been at this data retention thing for over two years now, so he's had time to get it exactly right:
http://news.cnet.com/2100-1028_3-6156948.html

Before Democrats start bemoaning how censorial the Republicans are, let's remember affection for data retention laws is a bipartisan sentiment. The first politician in the U.S. Congress to draft such legislation was a Democrat (Diana DeGette).

And the current attorney general, Eric Holder, said this when he was previously at DOJ: "Certain data must be retained by ISPs for reasonable periods of time so that it can be accessible to law enforcement." (http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cybercrime/dagceos.html)

-Declan





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