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Re: A bunch of comments on Apple Adds Still More DRM to iPod Shuffle - The Value Chain Again
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:55:07 -0400



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From: "Michael O'Dell" <mo () ccr org>
Date: March 14, 2009 3:49:41 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Subject: Re: [IP] Time to return the Shuffle I just bought as a gift -- Apple Adds Still More DRM to iPod Shuffle

My ears do not conform to the Apple designer's
vision of pinea. i also like noise-cancelling
headphones, especially on a turboprop.

i never intend to buy anything which restricts
my choice of audio transducers. and if that means
i'll never get a new iPod, that's the way it goes.

Has anybody checked to verify that Sculley or Amelio
are not back as substitutes? maybe that would explain
such an incredibly stupid decision.

        -mo




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From: Bradley Roberts <brad () macsuper com>
Date: March 14, 2009 3:41:49 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Cc: Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joehall () gmail com>
Subject: Re: [IP] Time to return the Shuffle I just bought as a gift -- Apple Adds Still More DRM to iPod Shuffle

There is ZERO confirmation of an authentication chip, only speculation. The study by iLounge was hardly "careful" and announcements from the EFF have been nothing more than FUD.

What they found is not at all surprising - headphones that don't have the buttons to control volume and play, can't control volume and play. The shuffle will play music but with no control. That is NOT DRM. (it is a different kind of lock-in, but that's a wholly separate argument and driven by design choices)

Headphones with the buttons will control the shuffle, those without, cannot. 3rd party products have been announced that have these buttons. Anything beyond this is pure speculation and irresponsible FUD.




From: "Bob Frankston" <Bob19-0501 () bobf frankston com>
Date: March 14, 2009 6:39:48 PM EDT
To: "'Lauren Weinstein'" <lauren () vortex com>
Cc: <dave () farber net>, "'ip'" <ip () v2 listbox com>, "'Joseph Lorenzo Hall'" <joehall () gmail com> Subject: RE: Apple Adds Still More DRM to iPod Shuffle - The Value Chain Again

Sounds right -- proprietary interfaces like on the iPod -- same old Apple.
Nothing new here folks -- just keep on shuffling along.

From: Lauren Weinstein <lauren () vortex com>
Date: March 14, 2009 5:10:44 PM EDT
To: Bob Frankston <Bob19-0501 () bobf frankston com>
Cc: dave () farber net, "'ip'" <ip () v2 listbox com>, "'Joseph Lorenzo Hall'" <joehall () gmail com> Subject: Re: Apple Adds Still More DRM to iPod Shuffle - The Value Chain Again


An Apple source has suggested to me that this isn't actually DRM,
but actually basic control linkages, but he is not in a position
to have definitive info on this so it can be only be viewed
as supposition at this point.



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From: "Bob Frankston" <Bob19-0501 () bobf frankston com>
Date: March 14, 2009 5:08:51 PM EDT
To: <dave () farber net>, "'ip'" <ip () v2 listbox com>
Cc: "'Lauren Weinstein'" <lauren () vortex com>, "'Joseph Lorenzo Hall'" <joehall () gmail com > Subject: Apple Adds Still More DRM to iPod Shuffle - The Value Chain Again

Addicted to billable silos.

I understand the justification for treating the system as a whole. How is this different Apple owning the Mac silo and using it to design better products. Of course it’s not benign – there’s an iPod ecology that Apple does use to exert control and extract value from every element along the chain.

This is getting close to the DRM hearing aids I wrote about http://www.frankston.com/public/?name=SATNRIAADeaf .

Controlling the value chain does come at a price. The tragedy is that there is so little protest about the endemic efforts frustrate the US Constitution’s goal of limiting the control of innovation and encouraging disclosure and sharing.

We see this with FTTH which is typically about designing system for the billable application (The Internet as TV). It’s unfortunate that cities model themselves after Telcos rather building infrastructure that can save lives even if it isn’t billable as minutes.

http://frankston.com/public





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