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Re: Guard the Secrets, Then Catch the Spies
From: InfoSec News <isn () c4i org>
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 01:10:27 -0500 (CDT)

Forwarded from: Richard Forno <rforno () infowarrior org>

This is not much different from many other defense programs involving
technology.....take IO....DoD still spends gobs of cash to stand up
information warfare centers that look to attack the bad guy's networks
and such, and spend prolly one tenth of that amount on protecting our
own systems.......we're the most techno-vulnerable military in the
world, yet DoD continues to run IO from an ass-backwards perspective.

What's the old saying, before you point out other folks' faults, you
should know and address your own?

Tom Baines is correct - and even Rumsfeld's plan for DoD is techno
centric.....he's so enamored with tech and remote platforms that
anything without a chipset inside (eg, HUMINT, troops, facilities,
training) is going to be secondary.

I'll wager that our CI program is no different......and the CI program
in the MOST need of serious review and re-working is at the place
charged with our national CI program.......FBI.




From: InfoSec News <isn () c4i org>
Reply-To: InfoSec News <isn () c4i org>
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 01:15:39 -0500 (CDT)
To: isn () attrition org
Subject: RE: [ISN] Guard the Secrets, Then Catch the Spies

Forwarded from: "Thomas B. Baines" <tbaines () anl gov>

Well gee whiz!  Mr. Bamford thinks we've crippled HUMINT so badly that
we ought to just turn the whole security problem over to technology.
That is exactly the channel of thinking that got us into the mess in
the first place.

I spent a good part of my military career in CI.  I watched the
budgets for manpower, training, and travel shrink year by year in
order to "free up" funding for additional national technical means and
pipe to connect to same. In the process, we became totally vulnerable
to almost any sophisticated insider mischief that might come along.

The answer to security is not automation and more sensors.  The answer
is more and improved HUMINT and CI manning and training, better
monitoring of those with key insider access, and incressed training of
all persons working with classified of what it costs each of us when
national security and economically importatn information is stolen and

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