Nmap Security Scanner
*Intro
*Ref Guide
*Install Guide
*Download
*Changelog
*Book
*Docs
Security Lists
*Nmap Hackers
*Nmap Dev
*Bugtraq
*Full Disclosure
*Pen Test
*Basics
*More
Security Tools
*Pass crackers
*Sniffers
*Vuln Scanners
*Web scanners
*Wireless
*Exploitation
*Packet crafters
*More
Site News
Site Search:
Exploit World
Advertising
About/Contact
Credits
Sponsors:
edgeos



Full Disclosure: Re: GOOD: A legal fix for software flaws?

Re: GOOD: A legal fix for software flaws?

From: Alexandre Dulaunoy <alexandre.dulaunoy_at_ael.be>
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:03:35 +0200 (CEST)

On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, Darren Reed wrote:

> In some mail from Valdis.Kletnieks_at_vt.edu, sie said:
> >
> > There's just one little problem with your logic:
> >
> > Unless the law specifically prohibits disclaimer of liability, there's no=
> > thing
> > illegal about a clause that does so. And in the best "be careful what yo=
> > u wish
> > for, as you may get it", you might want to go back and re-read clause 11 =
> > and 12
> > of the GPL, Version 2, and ask yourself if *ANY* GPL'ed software would ge=
> > t
> > released if that clause was illegal. If it was in fact illegal to discla=
> > im
> > liability, clause 7 would totally prohibit you from distributing it *AT A=
> > LL*.
> >
> > Then there's the issue of mom-n-pop software shops and small consulting
> > firms - they can't hide behind a "we're giving it away for free" clause i=
> > n the
> > hypothetical law, but they'd be insane to stay in business without softwa=
> > re
> > liability insurance. How many insurance companies are offering *THAT*
> > at rates a 2-5 person consulting firm can afford?
>
> I, for one, would not cry if the law made it impossible to sell or
> provide GPL'd software to people because it could not be provieded
> with a disclaimer.

For your information, the GNU General Public License is applicable in
the act of distribution.

Th warranty can be an additional contract between the buyer of a
service and the consulting firm. The GNU General Public License is a
method to protect the four freedoms of free software. It's not a
method to define a warranty...

> Sooner or later the software industry needs to grow up and take
> responsibility for the crap that it unloads onto the world,
> pretending it to be a product worth using. GPL software especially.

Don't mix the license used and the quality of a software product, this
is not linked. They are crappy software under the GNU GPL and they are
excellent software under the GNU GPL.

thanks,

adulau.

-- 
-- 	  	     Alexandre Dulaunoy (adulau) -- http://www.foo.be/
-- 	   http://pgp.ael.be:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x44E6CBCD
-- 	   "Knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance
-- 				  that we can solve them" Isaac Asimov
_______________________________________________
Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Received on Aug 29 2003
[ Nmap | Sec Tools | Mailing Lists | Site News | About/Contact | Advertising | Privacy ]
edgeos