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Full Disclosure: Re: "responsible disclosure" explanation (anexample of the fallacy of idealistic thought)

Re: "responsible disclosure" explanation (anexample of the fallacy of idealistic thought)

From: Jason Coombs <jasonc_at_science.org>
Date: Thu Aug 11 11:07:23 2005

Florian Weimer wrote:
> The implicit message that other
> disclosure processes were
> irresponsible was invaluable.

Invaluable; adjective

'Valuable beyond estimation. Priceless.'

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=invaluable

You've got that right. It has proved invaluable to marketing efforts, lobbyist campaigns to get new legislation enacted, and disinformation spread by self-interested bad people.

(I know you're not one of them)

Sincerely,

Jason Coombs
jasonc_at_science.org

“A Trojan is malicious code that gives an attacker future unauthorized access to a computer or its data. Nobody with common sense refers to spyware as Trojans.”

-----Original Message-----
From: Florian Weimer <fw_at_deneb.enyo.de>
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 19:15:27
To:Matthew Murphy <mattmurphy_at_kc.rr.com>
Cc:full-disclosure_at_lists.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] "responsible disclosure" explanation (an
        example of the fallacy of idealistic thought)

* Matthew Murphy:

> Let me just define "responsible disclosure" first of all, so as to
> dissociate myself from the lunatic lawyers of certain corporations
> (Cisco, HP, ISS, et al) who define "responsible disclosure" as
> "non-disclosure". The generally accepted definition of responsible
> disclosure is simply allowing vendors advance notification to fix
> vulnerabilities in their products before information describing such
> vulnerabilities is released.

Back in 2001, this was called "full disclosure", see:

  <http://www.wiretrip.net/rfp/policy.html>

(The document is probably even older, use archive.org to find out.)

In retrospect, "responsible disclosure" was always more a marketing
term than anything else (just like "blended threat"). The implicit
message that other disclosure processes were irresponsible was
invaluable.
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Received on Aug 11 2005

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