Re: From Russia with malice (Two messages)

Forwarded from: GertJan Hagenaars <isn_at_hagenaars.com>

Apparently, InfoSec News wrote:
% Forwarded from: Thor <thor_at_hammerofgod.com>
%
% > Kaspersky's figures are backed by estimates from the Ukraine-based
% > Computer Crime Research Centre which says the total amount of
% > financial losses worldwide resulting from cybercrime exceeded $411bn
% > at the end of last year.
%
% 411 billion in *losses*?? Does anyone else have issues with this
% figure? To give some perspective, that is more than the reported 2003
% earnings of Citigroup, Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase, Morgan
% Stanley, Wells Fargo, Prudential Financial, Merrill Lynch, American
% Express, Bank One Corp, Hartford Financial, and US Bancorp all
% *COMBINED* with about 10 billion to spare.
%
% T

http://www.ebcvg.com/press.php?id=679

        The top five malware families of all time including hybrids are:
        1. MyDoom; 2. Netsky; 3. SoBig; 4. Klez; and 5. Sasser. The
        total economic damage worldwide from malware proliferation -
        with an additional 480 new species in 2004 alone - is now
        estimated to lie between $166bn and $202bn for 2004 by the mi2g
        Intelligence Unit. With an installed base of around 600 million
        Windows based computers worldwide, this works out roughly as
        average damage per installed machine of between $277 and $336.

These numbers are too close for comfort. Two independant sources, so it
must be true.

Unless of course one copied and expanded on the acid-enhanced data
dreams of the other...

(All hype can eventually be traced back to mi2g.)

CHeers,
GertJan.

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Forwarded from: Jason Scott <jason_at_textfiles.com>
One of my favorite fudging of numbers during the Mitnick trial was
that not only did his damages include the cost of developing Solaris
in its entirety, it included the cost of building the buildings the
developers were housed in.
See, that's some tasty fudge.
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005, InfoSec News wrote:
> Forwarded from: Thor <thor_at_hammerofgod.com>
>
> > Kaspersky's figures are backed by estimates from the Ukraine-based
> > Computer Crime Research Centre which says the total amount of
> > financial losses worldwide resulting from cybercrime exceeded $411bn
> > at the end of last year.
>
> 411 billion in *losses*??  Does anyone else have issues with this
> figure?  To give some perspective, that is more than the reported
> 2003 earnings of Citigroup, Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase, Morgan
> Stanley, Wells Fargo, Prudential Financial, Merrill Lynch, American
> Express, Bank One Corp, Hartford Financial, and US Bancorp all
> *COMBINED* with about 10 billion to spare.
>
> T
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